Before bedtime, when you fixate your eyes on a certain point, you may see many swirling patterns resembling lollipops?
I am 40 years old and have myopia of about 600 degrees with astigmatism of 200 degrees.
About a year ago, I started experiencing floaters.
When I look at the sky, I see translucent, deformed shapes moving with my eye movements.
I have consulted an ophthalmologist, and my intraocular pressure is normal.
The doctor also mentioned that this is a natural aging phenomenon of the eyes.
However, recently, after turning off the lights at night and staring at a point for about 10 seconds, I see many swirling shapes resembling lollipops rotating, or a rapid movement of water patterns, or clusters of white dots moving like a school of fish.
If I blink, these images disappear immediately.
I would like to know if these are also illusions caused by floaters, or if they are related to the optic nerve or brain nerves.
Thank you for your response.
sì shí suì nán, 40~49 year old female. Ask Date: 2016/03/28
Dr. Gao Pilin reply Ophthalmology
Hello: When looking at the sky, you may see semi-transparent floaters moving with your eye movements, which is likely a phenomenon of vitreous floaters.
If you see some light and shadow when your eyes are closed, it could be due to electrical physiological phenomena generated by the retina and optic nerve still being active; this is something everyone experiences and is generally not a cause for concern.
At the E-Hospital in Puzi, Taiwan, the ophthalmology department is open Monday to Friday from 8:00 AM to 12:00 PM and Wednesday afternoons from 1:00 PM to 4:30 PM.
Online responses should only be used as a reference; if necessary, you should visit a medical facility for a proper evaluation.
I hope to have the opportunity to serve you.
Gao Pilin
Reply Date: 2016/03/28
More Info
The visual phenomena you are experiencing, particularly the "lollipop swirls," floating patterns, and the movement of white dots, can indeed be perplexing and concerning. Given your history of myopia (nearsightedness) and the presence of floaters, it is essential to understand the underlying mechanisms that could be contributing to these visual experiences.
Firstly, floaters are typically caused by changes in the vitreous humor, the gel-like substance that fills the eye. As we age, the vitreous can undergo liquefaction and separation from the retina, leading to the formation of floaters. These floaters can appear as small dots, cobwebs, or even more complex shapes, and they move with eye movement due to their position in the vitreous. The fact that you have been diagnosed with floaters suggests that your symptoms are likely related to this common condition.
The swirling patterns and water-like movements you describe, particularly when you focus on a point for an extended period, may be a result of a phenomenon known as "visual snow" or "entoptic phenomena." These are visual effects that arise from the eye itself or the brain's processing of visual information. When you stare at a fixed point, the eye's photoreceptors can become overstimulated, leading to the perception of these swirling patterns. This is often benign and can be exacerbated by fatigue, stress, or even the lighting conditions in your environment.
Moreover, the transient nature of these visual experiences—disappearing upon blinking—suggests that they are not related to structural issues in the eye or the brain. Instead, they are likely a result of the way your visual system is processing stimuli. In some cases, these phenomena can be linked to the brain's interpretation of visual signals, especially if there is any underlying neural activity that is heightened during periods of focus or fatigue.
It's also worth noting that while these experiences are generally benign, they can sometimes be associated with more serious conditions, particularly if accompanied by other symptoms such as flashes of light, sudden increases in floaters, or changes in vision. Given that you have already consulted with an ophthalmologist and received reassurance regarding your eye health, it seems that your symptoms are likely not indicative of a serious underlying issue.
In conclusion, the "lollipop swirls" and other visual phenomena you are experiencing are likely related to the normal aging process of the eye and the effects of floaters, rather than any significant neurological concern. However, if you notice any changes in your vision or if these symptoms become more frequent or bothersome, it would be prudent to follow up with your eye care professional for further evaluation. Regular eye exams are essential, especially for individuals with myopia, to monitor any changes in the retina or vitreous that may require attention.
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