Uncommon Symptoms of L4-L5 Herniated Disc: Is Surgery Necessary? - Neurosurgery

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Lumbar disc herniation


I underwent an MRI, which confirmed that I have an L4-L5 herniated disc.
The neurosurgeons all recommend surgery, but what's peculiar is that I can stand for long periods and walk without discomfort.
When sitting, I experience slight discomfort in my buttocks, but if I maintain a proper posture (such as keeping my back straight), I can sit for several hours.
However, I cannot lie down; regardless of whether I am lying on my back, stomach, or side, I wake up in pain after about two hours.
Dr.
Lai, why do my symptoms differ from the typical presentation of a herniated disc (where patients cannot stand or walk)? Is surgery necessary in my case?

Chen Jin Feng, 50~59 year old female. Ask Date: 2016/05/15

Dr. Lai Zhaokang reply Neurosurgery


Hello: It is true that most people feel more uncomfortable when getting out of bed, but there are also cases where lying down is even more uncomfortable.
This is related to the relationship between your herniated disc and the surrounding nerve structures, as well as the relative positioning of the adjacent spinal structures.
It is essential to have a physician examine the patient and review MRI and X-ray results to answer your questions.
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
// Dr.
Lai Chao-Kang, Director of Spine and Neurosurgery, Changhua Hospital.

Reply Date: 2016/05/15

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When dealing with an L4-L5 herniated disc, it's important to understand that symptoms can vary significantly from person to person. Your experience of being able to stand and walk without discomfort, while having pain when lying down, is indeed atypical but not unheard of. This variation can be attributed to several factors, including the specific nature of the herniation, the degree of nerve involvement, and individual anatomical differences.

In general, herniated discs can cause a range of symptoms, including pain, numbness, and weakness in the legs, which are often exacerbated by certain positions. The fact that you can stand and walk without discomfort suggests that your condition may not be severely compressing the nerve roots at this time. However, the pain you experience when lying down indicates that there may still be some degree of nerve irritation or inflammation.

The decision to proceed with surgery for a herniated disc typically depends on several factors:
1. Severity of Symptoms: If your symptoms are significantly impacting your quality of life or daily activities, surgery may be considered. In your case, while you can stand and walk, the pain when lying down could be a sign that the herniation is still causing issues that might worsen over time.

2. Response to Conservative Treatment: Before opting for surgery, most physicians recommend trying conservative treatments such as physical therapy, pain management, and possibly epidural steroid injections. If these treatments fail to provide relief over a reasonable period, surgery may be warranted.

3. Neurological Symptoms: If you begin to experience more severe neurological symptoms, such as significant weakness, loss of bowel or bladder control, or progressive numbness, this would necessitate a more urgent surgical evaluation.

4. MRI Findings: Your MRI results will provide critical information regarding the size and location of the herniation, as well as any nerve root compression. If the imaging shows significant compression of the nerve roots, surgery may be more strongly indicated.

5. Personal Preference and Lifestyle: Some patients prefer to avoid surgery unless absolutely necessary, while others may opt for surgery sooner to alleviate pain and restore function. Your lifestyle, activity level, and personal tolerance for pain will play a significant role in this decision.

In your case, it may be beneficial to have a detailed discussion with your neurosurgeon about your specific symptoms and MRI findings. They can help clarify whether your symptoms are likely to improve with conservative treatment or if surgery is the best option. Additionally, consider seeking a second opinion if you feel uncertain about the recommended course of action.

Ultimately, while surgery can be effective for relieving pain and restoring function in cases of herniated discs, it is not always necessary, especially if conservative measures can manage your symptoms effectively. Your unique symptom profile suggests that careful monitoring and possibly further conservative treatment may be appropriate before making a decision about surgery.

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