the Connection Between Kidney Stones and Bowel Urgency - Urology

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Dr.
Sun, I apologize for bothering you, but I have a question regarding kidney stones.
In the past, I would experience kidney stones approximately every two to three years.
I have undergone both shock wave lithotripsy and endoscopic procedures.
Recently, I have started to feel discomfort again, including lower back pain and dark urine.
This morning, I woke up due to the pain and went to see a doctor, who confirmed that I have hematuria.
It seems I may have kidney stones again, but the X-ray did not reveal their location.
I am scheduled for an intravenous urogram (IVU) next week.
I would like to ask you about the discomfort I have been experiencing lately.
I often feel abdominal discomfort with a sensation of needing to have a bowel movement, but I am unable to.
Sometimes, I have a very urgent need to go, but still cannot.
I usually have to drink a lot of water and move around.
After a while, I notice a bubbling sound and sensation in my abdomen, similar to the sound of bubbles or water flowing through a pipe.
Eventually, this sensation subsides, and I am able to have a bowel movement without abdominal pain.
However, if I do not hydrate well for an afternoon or overnight, the issue recurs.
Could you please explain why this bubbling sound occurs? Since kidney stones are part of the urinary system, why do they cause a sensation of needing to have a bowel movement, and why is it that I cannot go even when I feel the urge? Thank you (I have searched online but could not find information on the relationship between bowel urges and kidney stones, so I wanted to ask you directly.
Thank you, doctor).

Xiao Chen, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2016/07/30

Dr. Sun Hongshun reply Urology


Hello, if the stone is located in the mid or lower segment of the ureter, it may lead to the symptoms you mentioned.
This is due to the intricate interplay of nerves in the pelvic region.
I believe that if your stone issue is resolved, the symptoms you described should also be alleviated.
If problems persist, please consult a urologist.

Reply Date: 2016/07/30

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The connection between kidney stones and bowel urgency is a complex interplay of anatomical and neurological factors. Kidney stones, or renal calculi, can lead to a variety of symptoms, including pain, hematuria (blood in urine), and sometimes, surprisingly, gastrointestinal symptoms such as bowel urgency or discomfort.
When kidney stones are present, especially if they are located in the ureters (the tubes that carry urine from the kidneys to the bladder), they can cause significant pain. This pain is often referred to as renal colic and is typically felt in the flank area, but it can radiate to the lower abdomen and groin. The presence of stones can irritate the surrounding tissues, including the nerves that also innervate the bowel. This irritation can lead to sensations of urgency or discomfort in the lower abdomen, mimicking the feeling of needing to have a bowel movement.

The phenomenon you described, where you feel a sense of urgency to defecate but are unable to do so, can be attributed to the shared nerve pathways between the urinary and gastrointestinal systems. The pelvic nerves, which are responsible for transmitting sensations from both the bladder and the rectum, can become confused when there is irritation or inflammation in one area. This can lead to the sensation of needing to defecate when, in fact, the issue is related to the urinary tract.

Additionally, the "bo.bo.bo" sound you mentioned could be related to bowel activity. When you experience discomfort and the need to urinate, your body may respond by increasing peristalsis (the wave-like muscle contractions in the intestines), which can create sounds as gas and fluid move through the intestines. This is particularly common when you are hydrating significantly, as increased fluid intake can lead to more pronounced bowel sounds and movements.

It's also important to note that dehydration can exacerbate both kidney stone formation and gastrointestinal symptoms. When you are dehydrated, your urine becomes more concentrated, which can lead to the formation of stones. Conversely, adequate hydration can help flush out the urinary system and may alleviate some of the discomfort associated with stones. The need to drink large amounts of water to relieve your symptoms is a common recommendation for managing kidney stones, as it helps to dilute the urine and promote urination.

In your case, since you have a history of kidney stones and are currently experiencing symptoms such as dark urine and hematuria, it is crucial to follow up with your healthcare provider for further evaluation. An Intravenous Urogram (IVU) is a useful diagnostic tool that can help visualize the urinary tract and identify the location of any stones that may not have been visible on X-ray.
In summary, the connection between kidney stones and bowel urgency is primarily due to the shared nerve pathways and the anatomical proximity of the urinary and gastrointestinal systems. If you continue to experience these symptoms, it is essential to consult with a urologist or a healthcare professional who can provide a comprehensive evaluation and appropriate management options.

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