Unconfirmed Kidney Stones: When to See a Urologist and Next Steps - Urology

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Unconfirmed kidney stones?


Hello, Doctor.
Recently, I suddenly experienced pain in my left kidney area that has persisted without relief.
I took painkillers and went to the hospital for a family medicine consultation.
The doctor tested my urine, which showed 3+ hematuria, and elevated WBC and RBC counts.
The doctor indicated that it is more likely a symptom of kidney stones but could not rule out a urinary tract infection (there was no pain during urination at that time).
Therefore, he prescribed a preventive antibiotic and advised me to drink plenty of water.
It seems that the doctor did not provide a definitive diagnosis, only a suspicion, which makes me a bit worried.
I would like to ask Dr.
Du: 1.
Do I need to see a urologist for further examination? 2.
How can I know if the kidney stones have passed out of my body?

NANA, 10~19 year old female. Ask Date: 2016/09/25

Dr. Du Shixi reply Urology


Hello, based on your situation, I also believe it is more likely to be a urinary stone, as you are only 19 years old and the stone may be very small, allowing it to pass out of the body through urine.
Therefore, you can drink plenty of water for 1-2 weeks without taking medication, and then return to the urology department for a follow-up appointment (if you are female, please avoid your menstrual period).
After examination, it will be determined if further testing is necessary.
Additionally, it is important to maintain good hydration habits; individuals with low activity levels should drink at least 2000cc of water daily and limit the intake of various beverages.
If you do have a stone, failing to change your lifestyle could lead to a recurrence in 5-7 years.
Thank you for your inquiry.
(Of course, if you continue to experience back pain, fever, or painful urination, you should return for a follow-up sooner.)

Reply Date: 2016/09/25

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When it comes to unconfirmed kidney stones, it is essential to understand the symptoms and the appropriate steps to take for diagnosis and treatment. Based on your description, you experienced significant pain in the left kidney area, which led to a visit to your primary care physician. The findings of hematuria (blood in urine) and elevated white blood cells (WBC) and red blood cells (RBC) suggest that there could be an underlying issue, such as kidney stones or a urinary tract infection (UTI).

1. When to See a Urologist
Given your symptoms and the preliminary findings, it is advisable to consult a urologist for further evaluation. A urologist specializes in conditions related to the urinary tract and male reproductive system, and they can provide a more comprehensive assessment. Here are some reasons why seeing a urologist is important:
- Confirming Diagnosis: While your primary care physician suspects kidney stones, a urologist can conduct further tests, such as imaging studies (ultrasound or CT scan), to confirm the presence of stones and assess their size and location.

- Differentiating Conditions: The urologist can help distinguish between kidney stones and other potential issues, such as a UTI or other renal pathologies, which may require different treatment approaches.

- Treatment Options: If stones are confirmed, the urologist can discuss treatment options, which may include conservative management (increased fluid intake, pain management) or more invasive procedures if the stones are large or causing significant symptoms.


2. How to Know if Stones Have Passed
Determining whether kidney stones have passed can be challenging, especially if you do not see them in your urine. Here are some signs and methods to help you ascertain if the stones have been expelled:
- Symptom Relief: One of the most telling signs that a stone has passed is the relief of pain. If the acute pain subsides significantly, it may indicate that the stone has moved out of the kidney and into the bladder or has been expelled.

- Urine Changes: After passing a stone, you may notice changes in your urine, such as the presence of small particles or sediment. If you can collect your urine in a container, you can look for any stone fragments.

- Follow-Up Imaging: If you are unsure whether the stones have passed, follow-up imaging (such as an ultrasound or CT scan) can provide clarity. Your urologist may recommend this based on your symptoms and initial findings.

- Urine Tests: A urinalysis can help detect the presence of blood or crystals, which may suggest that stones are still present or that they have recently passed.


Additional Considerations
- Hydration: Continue to drink plenty of fluids, as this can help facilitate the passage of stones and reduce the risk of new stone formation.

- Monitoring Symptoms: Keep track of any changes in your symptoms. If you experience worsening pain, fever, or difficulty urinating, seek medical attention promptly.

- Preventive Measures: If you have a history of kidney stones, discuss preventive strategies with your urologist. This may include dietary modifications, medications, or lifestyle changes to reduce the risk of recurrence.

In summary, it is prudent to see a urologist for further evaluation of your symptoms and to confirm whether kidney stones are present. Monitoring your symptoms and following up with appropriate imaging or tests will help determine if the stones have passed and guide your treatment plan. Always communicate openly with your healthcare providers about your concerns and any changes in your condition.

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