Pleural Effusion: Concerns for an 85-Year-Old Patient - Pulmonology

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Pleural effusion issues?


Hello Dr.
Wu, my grandfather is 85 years old and has been diagnosed with pleural effusion.
He was hospitalized, and it wasn't until the third day that the doctor used a drainage tube to slowly remove the fluid.
On the first day, 1100cc was drained, 450cc on the second day, and it decreased to under 200cc on the third day.
The following two days, it was approximately 70cc each day.
However, from this afternoon until 10 PM, the amount increased again to 400cc.
Can I ask the doctor if this is bad news? My grandfather does not experience shortness of breath or discomfort.
The fluid drained in the first three days was bloody, while the later drainage was more yellowish.
Please advise!

Yun, 20~29 year old female. Ask Date: 2017/04/23

Dr. Wu Yingxun reply Pulmonology


To understand the prognosis of pleural effusion, it is essential to first identify its causes.
Common causes of pleural effusion include infection, pulmonary tuberculosis, and malignant tumors.
It may be necessary to consult the attending physician regarding the patient's diagnosis.

Reply Date: 2017/04/23

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Pleural effusion, or the accumulation of fluid in the pleural space surrounding the lungs, can be a significant concern, especially in elderly patients like your grandfather. Given his age and the nature of his condition, it is essential to understand the implications of pleural effusion, the treatment process, and what the changes in the fluid characteristics might indicate.

Firstly, the presence of pleural effusion can arise from various underlying causes, including heart failure, pneumonia, malignancies, or infections. In your grandfather's case, the fact that the fluid was initially bloody and then transitioned to a more yellowish color suggests that the nature of the effusion may be changing. Blood-stained fluid can indicate a more serious condition, such as malignancy or trauma, while yellowish fluid may suggest an inflammatory process or infection.

The management of pleural effusion often involves thoracentesis, a procedure where a needle is inserted into the pleural space to remove excess fluid. In your grandfather's case, the use of a drainage tube to continuously remove fluid is a common approach, especially when the effusion is significant. The amounts of fluid being drained (1100cc, then 450cc, and subsequently decreasing to 70cc) indicate that the initial volume of fluid was substantial, but the gradual decrease suggests that the effusion may be resolving.

However, the recent increase in fluid accumulation to 400cc after a period of decrease raises some concerns. While it is not uncommon for pleural effusions to fluctuate, especially in the context of underlying conditions, a sudden increase in fluid volume can indicate that the underlying issue has not been fully addressed or that there may be a new complication. It is crucial to monitor for any signs of respiratory distress, even if your grandfather currently feels comfortable and is not experiencing shortness of breath.

In terms of treatment, the management of pleural effusion will depend on the underlying cause. If the effusion is due to an infection, antibiotics may be necessary. If it is related to heart failure, diuretics may be used to manage fluid overload. In cases where malignancy is suspected, further diagnostic procedures may be warranted to determine the nature of the effusion and guide treatment.

Given your grandfather's age and the complexity of his condition, it is essential to maintain close communication with his healthcare team. Regular follow-up appointments and imaging studies may be necessary to monitor the effusion's status and adjust treatment as needed. Additionally, if the fluid continues to reaccumulate, further interventions, such as pleurodesis (a procedure to adhere the lung to the chest wall to prevent future effusions), may be considered.

In summary, while the initial management of your grandfather's pleural effusion appears to be progressing, the recent increase in fluid volume should be carefully evaluated by his healthcare providers. It is essential to address any underlying causes and ensure that he receives appropriate care tailored to his specific needs. Regular monitoring and open communication with his medical team will be vital in managing his condition effectively.

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