Is it really possible for the CEA level to reach 10,000?
Hello Dr.
Lai, I discovered a CEA level of 1085 during my health check in August this year, and subsequently, a re-test at the clinic showed a value of 1500.
Later, after transferring to another hospital, the test results indicated that the level had risen to 10,000, and I was diagnosed with terminal gastric cancer, which has metastasized to the fifth lumbar vertebra and 16 lymph nodes in the abdominal area.
The attending physician believes that surgery cannot remove the cancer, and I am currently undergoing first-line drug treatment, with the CEA level reduced to around 8500.
I would like to ask Dr.
Lai if there is a limit to the CEA level, and whether there are other potential underlying conditions that could be associated with this situation?
La Bao, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2018/12/21
Dr. Lai Yicheng reply Oncology
Are there other potential underlying conditions in this situation? 1.
CEA is a convenient but not an "ideal" marker.
The diversity of influencing factors makes it impossible to specify which type of cancer it indicates.
It is primarily used for monitoring.
Is there a limit to the CEA level? 2.
Please consult the laboratory department, as the testing methods vary between hospitals, making it impossible to provide any definitive numerical values.
Focus on follow-up examinations.
Changhua Hospital, Department of Radiation Oncology, Dr.
Lai.
Thank you.
Reply Date: 2018/12/21
More Info
Carcinoembryonic antigen (CEA) is a protein that can be found in higher levels in certain types of cancers, particularly colorectal cancer, but it is not exclusive to that type. It can also be elevated in other malignancies such as gastric, pancreatic, lung, breast, and ovarian cancers, as well as in benign conditions like chronic inflammation, liver disease, and smoking.
In your case, a CEA level of 10,000 is extraordinarily high and typically indicates advanced disease, especially in the context of a confirmed diagnosis of gastric cancer with metastasis. Such elevated levels are not common and suggest a significant tumor burden. While there is no strict upper limit for CEA levels, extremely high values like 10,000 are often associated with advanced stages of cancer and can indicate widespread disease.
The fact that your CEA level has fluctuated—from 1,085 to 1,500, then to 10,000, and now down to 8,500—suggests that the cancer is being monitored and that treatment is having some effect, although the levels remain significantly elevated. It is important to note that CEA is primarily used to monitor treatment response and detect recurrence rather than as a definitive diagnostic tool.
Regarding your question about other potential underlying conditions, while a high CEA level is often associated with malignancy, it is not exclusive to cancer. Other conditions that can cause elevated CEA levels include:
1. Benign Conditions: Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), inflammatory bowel disease, pancreatitis, and liver diseases can also elevate CEA levels.
2. Smoking: Smokers tend to have higher baseline CEA levels compared to non-smokers.
3. Age: CEA levels can increase with age, and older adults may have higher levels even in the absence of cancer.
Given your situation, it is crucial to maintain open communication with your healthcare team. They can provide insights into the implications of your CEA levels in the context of your overall health and treatment plan. Regular monitoring of CEA levels, along with imaging studies and clinical evaluations, will help assess the effectiveness of the current treatment and guide future management strategies.
In summary, while a CEA level of 10,000 is indeed possible and indicative of advanced cancer, it is essential to consider the entire clinical picture, including symptoms, imaging results, and other laboratory findings. Continuous monitoring and a comprehensive approach to treatment will be vital in managing your condition. Always consult with your oncologist for personalized advice and to discuss any concerns regarding your health and treatment options.
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