Issues with taking probiotics after colon surgery?
Hello Doctor,
I would like to explain my grandfather's situation.
He is 83 years old.
In early July, he experienced difficulty with bowel movements.
After seeing a doctor, he was diagnosed with "C187 malignant tumor of the sigmoid colon." He later underwent surgery for tumor removal and did not require chemotherapy.
After returning home to recover, he experienced constipation several times.
During a follow-up visit, he informed the doctor, who then prescribed additional laxatives (magnesium oxide tablets and Bisacodyl) and stool softeners (Docusate sodium).
Regarding his diet, initially, he had three meals of plain rice porridge with vegetables, meat, and eggs, and he would eat papaya in the afternoon.
He took stool softeners (4 magnesium oxide tablets and 2 Bisacodyl tablets) after breakfast and dinner, as well as before bedtime.
The doctor mentioned that my grandfather's intestines were dry and advised him to drink more water, which he has been doing regularly.
However, despite this diet, medication, and hydration, he still faced irregular bowel movements, sometimes experiencing constipation every other day, requiring laxatives for relief.
After taking the laxatives, his initial bowel movements were hard and pellet-like (requiring effort to pass), followed by softer, tubular stools, and finally, more formed stools.
I then attempted to improve his diet by having him eat savory porridge (with cabbage, carrots, sweet potatoes, minced meat, and small fish) for all three meals, while continuing with the stool softeners (4 magnesium oxide tablets and 2 Bisacodyl tablets), along with papaya and water.
As a result, he began to have the urge to defecate around 4 or 5 AM the next day, with minimal effort required, and his stools were of normal shape.
Currently, my grandfather has follow-up appointments every three months.
In the past week, he has also been having bowel movements in the early morning, with infrequent constipation.
However, he mentioned that sometimes while sleeping, he suddenly feels a strong urge to go, almost not making it to the bathroom.
Additionally, he has experienced multiple bowel movements between 6 and 7 AM, even after having already gone around 4 or 5 AM (mostly soft tubular stools that do not break apart in water, followed by thicker stools that do break apart).
To note, my grandfather does not experience abdominal pain, nor does he have any pain during bowel movements, and he is otherwise pain-free.
I believe that his current regularity in bowel movements is due to the "medications," and I am concerned that his intestines may become too reliant on them.
I worry that stopping the stool softeners suddenly could lead to constipation again, and I am unsure how to proceed.
(I have researched Bisacodyl and found that it contains "Sennosides," which are similar to stimulant laxatives and are not recommended for long-term use.) I am considering introducing probiotics to enhance gut flora and potentially reduce the need for stool softeners.
I have a few questions for you, Doctor:
1.
When starting probiotics, how should he take the stool softeners? Should the dosage remain the same or be reduced? (Currently, he takes 2 magnesium oxide tablets after breakfast and dinner, and 2 Bisacodyl tablets before bedtime.) I am concerned that if he continues with the same dosage of stool softeners while starting probiotics, it might lead to more urgent bowel movements resembling diarrhea.
Conversely, if the probiotics do not work and he stops the stool softeners, could he become constipated again?
2.
Do stool softeners or laxatives reduce the beneficial bacteria in the gut?
3.
The doctor mentioned that my grandfather's intestines are dry and lacking moisture.
Besides drinking more water and eating fruits and vegetables, can probiotics also help improve intestinal dryness?
4.
I found a probiotic product called "Taiwan Sugar Oligosaccharide Lactic Acid Bacteria" that I would like to try.
However, I am unsure if it is suitable for someone like my grandfather who has had intestinal surgery.
(Here are the ingredient details: "Taiwan Sugar Oligosaccharide Lactic Acid Bacteria" - Ingredients: Oligofructose powder, active lactic acid bacteria powder (maltodextrin, anhydrous glucose, Bacillus coagulans (Lactobacillus sporogenes), Lactobacillus acidophilus), indigestible maltodextrin (water-soluble cellulose), DL-malic acid, kumquat flavor powder (flavor, lactose, silicon dioxide).
Health benefit ingredient content: Oligofructose (1-Kestose + Nystose total): 36±5% (w/w), active lactic acid bacteria: ≥2×10^8 cfu/g.
Recommended intake: 2 packets (6 grams) daily, which can be taken in 1 or 2 doses after meals with warm water.)
Thank you, Doctor!
N, 20~29 year old female. Ask Date: 2020/11/11
Dr. Ke Fangxu reply Surgery
1.
Theoretically, probiotics and laxatives should not have an impact on each other, and adjustments can be made based on bowel movement status.
2.
Products that contain chicory may even enhance the effects of intestinal probiotics.
3.
4.
It should be possible.
Reply Date: 2020/11/11
More Info
Post-surgery constipation is a common issue, especially in seniors like your grandfather, who is 83 years old and has undergone surgery for a malignant tumor in the sigmoid colon. After surgery, many patients experience changes in bowel habits due to factors such as reduced mobility, changes in diet, and the use of medications like opioids or laxatives. In your grandfather's case, it seems that he has been managing his constipation with a combination of softeners and laxatives, but you are right to be concerned about the long-term reliance on these medications.
1. Probiotic Use and Softener Dosage: When introducing probiotics, it is generally advisable to maintain the current dosage of softeners initially. Probiotics can take time to establish a beneficial effect in the gut, and during this period, your grandfather may still need the softeners to ensure regular bowel movements. You could consider gradually reducing the softener dosage once you observe consistent improvements in his bowel habits. However, it is crucial to monitor his response closely. If he experiences increased urgency or loose stools, it may be wise to revert to the previous dosage until his gut flora stabilizes.
2. Impact of Laxatives on Gut Flora: Long-term use of laxatives, particularly stimulant laxatives, can potentially alter the gut microbiome. While osmotic laxatives like magnesium oxide are generally considered gentler on the gut flora, any laxative use can lead to dependency, where the bowel becomes less responsive without the stimulant. This is why it is essential to use these medications judiciously and explore alternatives like dietary changes and probiotics.
3. Improving Dryness in the Gut: Your grandfather's doctor has indicated that he has a "dry" gut, which can be exacerbated by insufficient fluid intake and dietary fiber. In addition to increasing water and fiber intake through fruits and vegetables, probiotics can help improve gut health by enhancing the gut microbiome, which may, in turn, improve bowel regularity and hydration in the intestines. Probiotics can help in fermenting dietary fibers, producing short-chain fatty acids that can improve gut motility and hydration.
4. Safety of Probiotics Post-Surgery: The probiotic you mentioned, "台糖寡糖乳酸菌," appears to contain beneficial strains like Lactobacillus acidophilus and Bacillus coagulans, which are generally safe for most individuals, including those who have undergone gastrointestinal surgery. However, it is always best to consult with your grandfather's healthcare provider before starting any new supplement, especially given his recent surgery and current medications. They can provide personalized advice based on his overall health status and any potential interactions with his current treatment regimen.
In summary, while probiotics may offer a beneficial addition to your grandfather's regimen to help manage constipation, it is essential to approach this change thoughtfully. Maintain the current softener dosage initially, monitor his response, and consult with his healthcare provider for tailored advice. Additionally, continue to encourage a diet rich in fiber and adequate hydration to support his digestive health.
Similar Q&A
Post-Surgery Bowel Issues in Stage I Rectal Cancer Patients
Hello, I would like to ask about my mother, who is 80 years old and diagnosed with stage I rectal cancer (12 cm from the anus, at the junction with the sigmoid colon). Since her laparoscopic surgery in early October 2019, she has been experiencing frequent bowel movements at nigh...
Dr. Xu Kaixi reply Surgery
Due to the tumor's proximity to the anal opening, only 12 centimeters away, there will inevitably be an impact on bowel function in the short term after surgery. It will take some time for the body to adapt, and the frequency of bowel movements will gradually decrease. Gastr...[Read More] Post-Surgery Bowel Issues in Stage I Rectal Cancer Patients
Understanding Post-Surgery Care: Probiotics, Massage, and Recovery
1. If you supplement with probiotics but use laxatives for bowel movements, will the probiotics be completely flushed out as well? 2. Given that your constitution is relatively weak and it has been over a year since your fibroid surgery, is it okay to perform abdominal massage m...
Dr. Ke Fangxu reply Surgery
Hello: In response to your questions: 1. The use of laxatives only increases the water content of the colon or enhances intestinal motility; it does not flush out probiotics. 2. It is not recommended to perform massages within six months post-surgery, as the wound has not stabili...[Read More] Understanding Post-Surgery Care: Probiotics, Massage, and Recovery
Post-Cholecystectomy: Can Probiotics Help Reduce Diarrhea?
After gallbladder removal, is it advisable to consume gastrointestinal probiotics to reduce diarrhea? Or what can be consumed to lessen diarrhea? Thank you, doctor.
Dr. Chen Jiaming reply Surgery
Temporary incomplete lipid absorption after cholecystectomy lasts for about one month. During this period, reducing fat intake can help improve the condition. If diarrhea persists beyond this timeframe, it may be due to changes in the gut microbiota caused by short-term antibioti...[Read More] Post-Cholecystectomy: Can Probiotics Help Reduce Diarrhea?
Improving Digestive Health in an 80-Year-Old After Surgery: Tips and Advice
My grandmother is eighty years old and had surgery for peritonitis two years ago. However, in the past six months, she has started experiencing a loss of appetite, abdominal bloating, and constipation with very little stool output. The doctor previously advised us to encourage he...
Dr. Chen Shidian reply Gastroenterology and Hepatology
Hello Ms. He: Consuming an adequate amount of fiber from fruits and vegetables can promote gastrointestinal motility, but it is important to chew them thoroughly to prevent potential intestinal obstruction (especially in patients with existing adhesions or blockages). It may also...[Read More] Improving Digestive Health in an 80-Year-Old After Surgery: Tips and Advice
Related FAQ
(Surgery)
Irritable Bowel Syndrome(Surgery)
Bowel Movements(Surgery)
Gastrointestinal Pain(Surgery)
Post-Hernia Surgery(Surgery)
Anal Prolapse(Surgery)
Flatulence(Surgery)
Mucus In Stool(Surgery)
Diarrhea(Surgery)
Post-Anal Abscess Surgery(Surgery)