There is peeling of a white membrane inside the lower lip, along with suspected erythema?
Hello Dr.
Lin, I have two questions I would like to ask you.
First, I have suddenly developed a large white membrane inside my lips over the past few days.
It can be removed with considerable force (but only with a lot of effort), and it reappears the next day.
Additionally, I can still see peeling at the edges.
I would like to ask you, Dr.
Lin, could this be oral leukoplakia? Or is it oral lichen planus? If it is oral lichen planus, would it be classified as erosive or ulcerative?
As for the second question, after I forcefully removed the white membrane, I noticed a red patch in my mouth.
Would this be considered oral erythroplakia? (The precancerous type)
Thank you, Dr.
Lin.
dan, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2021/06/21
Dr. Lin Jiayong reply Dentistry
Hello: The first image appears to show the oral mucosal epithelium being rubbed off, revealing the underlying tissue, and it does not represent leukoplakia or lichen planus.
The second image also does not resemble erythema; rather, the deeper color is due to a higher concentration of blood vessels in the vestibular area.
However, relying solely on images is very inaccurate; it is advisable for you to seek a medical consultation in person.
Sincerely, Lin Chia-Yung, Department of Dentistry, Taichung Hospital, Ministry of Health and Welfare.
Reply Date: 2021/06/21
More Info
Understanding the presence of a white membrane and red lesions inside the lower lip can be concerning, and it is essential to consider various potential causes. Based on your description, the white membrane that can be removed with force and the subsequent appearance of a red lesion may indicate several conditions, including oral leukoplakia, oral lichen planus, or even candidiasis.
1. Oral Leukoplakia: This condition is characterized by white patches in the oral cavity that cannot be scraped off easily. While leukoplakia itself is not a disease but a symptom, it can sometimes be associated with precancerous changes. The fact that you can scrape off the white membrane suggests that it may not be true leukoplakia, as true leukoplakic lesions are typically more adherent.
2. Oral Lichen Planus: This is an inflammatory condition that can present as white, lacy patches or plaques in the mouth. It can also manifest as erosive lesions, which may be painful and can lead to ulceration. If the white membrane you are experiencing is indeed lichen planus, it may be classified as either the reticular type (which is more common and less symptomatic) or the erosive type (which can cause pain and discomfort). The presence of a red lesion after scraping off the white membrane could indicate inflammation or ulceration associated with lichen planus.
3. Candidiasis: Oral thrush, caused by an overgrowth of Candida yeast, can present as white patches that can be scraped off, revealing a red, inflamed base. This condition is more common in individuals with weakened immune systems, those taking antibiotics, or those with diabetes. If the red area beneath the white membrane is painful and appears inflamed, candidiasis could be a possibility.
4. Other Considerations: Other potential causes for the symptoms you describe include geographic tongue, which can cause red patches with a white border, or even systemic conditions like pemphigus vulgaris, which can lead to erosive lesions in the oral cavity.
Given the potential seriousness of some of these conditions, particularly the risk of precancerous changes associated with leukoplakia, it is crucial to seek a professional evaluation. A healthcare provider, preferably an oral surgeon or a dermatologist specializing in oral lesions, can perform a thorough examination and may recommend a biopsy if necessary to rule out malignancy or other serious conditions.
In summary, while the symptoms you describe could be indicative of several conditions, including oral leukoplakia, oral lichen planus, or candidiasis, a definitive diagnosis can only be made through clinical evaluation and possibly histopathological examination. It is advisable to consult with a healthcare professional who can provide a comprehensive assessment and appropriate management based on your specific situation.
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