Deep pain in the popliteal fossa of the knee?
Hello, Dr.
You.
I have undergone physical examinations at multiple hospitals (Veterans General Hospital, Shuanglian, and Chang Gung Memorial Hospital) with no issues found regarding the posterior cruciate ligament.
However, during a visit to the orthopedic clinic (Dr.
Tsai Chia-Jeh Orthopedic Clinic), Dr.
Tsai identified a problem with the posterior cruciate ligament through ultrasound examination.
As a result, I have self-paid for three PRP injections and six shockwave therapy sessions.
The shockwave therapy provided slight relief, but the effect lasted only about 1 to 2 weeks.
Since then, no other doctors have mentioned any abnormalities regarding the posterior cruciate ligament (prior to the meniscus bucket handle tear resection surgery).
My current condition is as follows: 1.
After sitting for a long time, I occasionally feel tightness in the back of my thigh when I straighten my leg.
2.
I experience significant pain in my heel while walking, and my left knee has also started to feel stiff and uncomfortable.
3.
I can feel deep pain in the popliteal area of my knee even when lying down.
4.
Pressing on my buttock causes pain.
5.
After standing for about 20 minutes, I experience pain in my heel and deep in the popliteal area to the point where I cannot walk.
Thank you again, doctor, for your response.
Jung, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2022/02/21
Dr. You Dianqi reply Orthopedics
Hello! It is recommended that you choose a trusted orthopedic surgeon or medical institution to inform the specialist about your condition, allowing the physician to evaluate, diagnose, and arrange for relevant examinations.
Thank you.
Reply Date: 2022/02/21
More Info
Understanding deep knee pain, particularly in the popliteal region (the area behind the knee), can be complex due to the various structures involved and the potential for overlapping conditions. Based on your description and the previous medical evaluations you've undergone, it seems that your knee pain may stem from several interconnected issues.
Possible Causes of Deep Knee Pain
1. Ligament Injuries: Although multiple examinations have ruled out significant issues with the posterior cruciate ligament (PCL), the ultrasound findings suggest there may still be some underlying problems. Ligament injuries can lead to instability, which may cause pain during movement or prolonged sitting.
2. Meniscal Issues: You mentioned having undergone surgery for a bucket handle tear of the meniscus. Even after surgical intervention, residual pain can occur due to incomplete healing, the development of scar tissue, or the presence of other meniscal tears that may not have been addressed during the initial surgery.
3. Synovitis: The MRI report indicated synovial thickening and effusion, suggesting inflammation in the knee joint. Synovitis can cause pain and swelling, particularly after periods of inactivity or prolonged use.
4. Referred Pain: Pain in the knee can sometimes be referred from other areas, such as the hip or lower back. Given your symptoms of pain radiating to the buttocks and thigh, it is essential to consider whether there are issues in the lumbar spine or hip joint contributing to your knee pain.
5. Myofascial Pain Syndrome: This condition involves trigger points in the muscles that can cause referred pain. The tightness you feel in your thigh after sitting for a long time may indicate myofascial pain, which can be exacerbated by poor posture or prolonged immobility.
Treatment Options
1. Physical Therapy: Engaging in a structured physical therapy program can help strengthen the muscles around the knee, improve flexibility, and enhance overall function. A physical therapist can also provide modalities such as ultrasound or electrical stimulation to reduce pain and inflammation.
2. Injections: Since you have already tried PRP (Platelet-Rich Plasma) injections and shockwave therapy with limited success, you might consider corticosteroid injections for more immediate relief from inflammation. However, these should be used sparingly due to potential side effects.
3. Activity Modification: Avoiding activities that exacerbate your pain, such as prolonged standing or walking on hard surfaces, can help manage symptoms. Incorporating low-impact exercises, such as swimming or cycling, may also be beneficial.
4. Pain Management: Over-the-counter pain relievers like NSAIDs (e.g., ibuprofen) can help manage pain and inflammation. If pain persists, discussing stronger prescription options with your healthcare provider may be necessary.
5. Alternative Therapies: Acupuncture and massage therapy may provide additional relief by addressing muscle tightness and improving circulation in the affected areas.
6. Surgical Options: If conservative treatments fail and your quality of life is significantly affected, discussing further surgical options with an orthopedic specialist may be warranted. This could include arthroscopic procedures to address any remaining meniscal issues or ligament reconstruction if instability is a concern.
Conclusion
Given the complexity of your symptoms and the various potential causes, a multidisciplinary approach may be the most effective way to manage your knee pain. Collaboration with orthopedic specialists, physical therapists, and pain management experts will be crucial in developing a comprehensive treatment plan tailored to your specific needs. Regular follow-ups and reassessments will also be essential to monitor your progress and adjust your treatment as necessary.
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