Is It Really Kidney Stones? Your Back Pain and Diagnosis - Urology

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Is it really a stone?


Hello, recently I have been experiencing lower back pain and have visited several hospitals for consultation.
I found that every urologist I saw suggested it might be kidney stones, while rehabilitation specialists indicated it could be a muscle or skeletal issue.
This has left me confused about whom to believe.
A good friend of mine recommended Dr.
Hsu here, saying he provided excellent answers, so I decided to consult you.
My question is, I only feel the pain in the evening; during the day, I don't experience any discomfort, and lying down helps alleviate it.
This situation has persisted for several months.
X-ray examinations have indicated the presence of stones in the ureter, and some doctors have suggested that I should undergo lithotripsy.
I would like to ask, is it true that lithotripsy does not require surgery?

Xiao Liu, 20~29 year old female. Ask Date: 2003/11/24

Dr. Xu Weikai reply Urology


Actually, I believe your issue may be a combination of both factors.
In other words, you do have kidney stones, but these stones may be asymptomatic or cause only very mild symptoms.
However, due to poor posture (such as sitting, sleeping on a mattress that is too soft, or improper positioning while watching TV), you are experiencing lower back pain that worsens in the evening.
Clearly, you are suffering from a modern lifestyle-related condition: lower back pain, which is caused by muscle tension.
My suggestion is to consult a rehabilitation specialist for physical therapy, or you may consider traditional Chinese medicine, such as acupuncture or tui na (Chinese therapeutic massage).
As for breaking the stones, there are non-surgical methods, similar to qigong, where energy is directed at the stones to break them apart, allowing for natural passage.
This can be considered a high-tech approach.

Reply Date: 2003/11/24

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When it comes to understanding back pain and the potential diagnosis of kidney stones, it's essential to consider various factors, including the nature of the pain, accompanying symptoms, and diagnostic imaging results. Your experience of back pain that intensifies in the evening and improves when lying down could suggest several underlying issues, including kidney stones or musculoskeletal problems.

Kidney stones can cause significant discomfort, typically characterized by sharp, severe pain that may radiate from the lower back to the abdomen and groin. This pain often occurs in waves and can be accompanied by other symptoms such as hematuria (blood in urine), nausea, and vomiting. However, the fact that your pain is primarily present in the evening and alleviates when lying down raises the possibility of a non-urological cause, such as muscle strain or spinal issues.

The distinction between kidney stones and musculoskeletal pain can sometimes be challenging. While urologists may lean towards a diagnosis of kidney stones based on imaging studies, rehabilitation specialists might focus on the muscular or skeletal aspects of your pain. It's crucial to communicate openly with your healthcare providers about your symptoms and any changes you notice.

Regarding your question about lithotripsy (the procedure to break up kidney stones), it is indeed a non-invasive treatment option. Lithotripsy uses shock waves to break stones into smaller pieces that can be passed more easily through the urinary tract. This procedure typically does not require an incision, making it a preferred choice for many patients with stones that are not too large (usually under 2 cm). However, the decision to proceed with lithotripsy depends on several factors, including the size and location of the stones, your overall health, and the presence of any complications.

If your X-ray results indicate the presence of stones in the ureter, it's essential to monitor their size and any associated symptoms. Small stones (typically less than 5 mm) have a high likelihood of passing naturally, while larger stones may require intervention. If your symptoms persist or worsen, further imaging studies, such as a CT scan or ultrasound, may be warranted to assess the situation more accurately.

In addition to hydration, which is crucial for preventing and managing kidney stones, there are other lifestyle modifications that can help reduce the risk of stone formation. These include dietary changes, such as reducing sodium intake, limiting foods high in oxalates (like spinach and nuts), and ensuring adequate calcium intake through dietary sources rather than supplements. Some studies suggest that citric acid, found in lemon juice, may help prevent stone formation by binding to calcium and inhibiting crystal formation.

Given your history of back pain and the potential for kidney stones, it may be beneficial to seek a comprehensive evaluation from a urologist who can provide a thorough assessment and recommend appropriate management strategies. If necessary, a multidisciplinary approach involving both urology and rehabilitation specialists may help address both the kidney stone concerns and any musculoskeletal issues contributing to your discomfort.

In summary, while kidney stones could be a potential cause of your back pain, the nature of your symptoms and the timing of the pain suggest that other factors may also be at play. A thorough evaluation and open communication with your healthcare providers will be key to determining the underlying cause and appropriate treatment options.

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