Optic nerve cupping
Dear Dr.
Gao,
I have recently experienced some flashes of light when closing my eyes before sleep (usually brief).
Therefore, I visited a clinic the day before yesterday, and the doctor mentioned that it might be due to excessive smartphone use and advised me to rest more.
I then expressed my desire to measure my intraocular pressure (IOP) since my IOP has been on the higher side.
The results were 22 and 23, which the doctor indicated were somewhat elevated, and he proceeded to perform a fundus examination.
After reviewing the results, the doctor noted that my optic nerve appeared slightly cupped and prescribed eye drops (Ning Shutang and Sankeba) for me to use, scheduling a visual field test for next week.
Concerned about my eye condition, I asked the doctor if I could have the test the next day, and he agreed.
After the visual field test yesterday, the doctor said that my visual field looked fine and arranged another IOP measurement (around 21).
He explained that some individuals naturally have thicker corneas, which can result in higher IOP.
We scheduled a follow-up IOP measurement in a month and another visual field test in six months.
I inquired about the cupping of my optic nerve, and the doctor reassured me that it was not a concern.
However, I am still quite anxious about the cupping of my optic nerve, so I would like to ask you, Dr.
Gao:
1.
Does cupping of the optic nerve necessarily lead to optic nerve damage and result in glaucoma?
2.
Is there a possibility for the cupping of the optic nerve to improve?
3.
Is there a relationship between cupping of the optic nerve and myopia? (My myopia is approximately -4.75 and -3.75, and I haven't had it measured in a while.)
4.
Do Ning Shutang and Sankeba contain steroids? Is it safe for me to continue using them?
5.
I am currently taking psychiatric medication (serotonin).
Is there any interaction between serotonin and Ning Shutang or Sankeba?
6.
Would you recommend that I visit a larger hospital for further examination?
Thank you very much for taking the time to read my concerns! I am extremely grateful!
Xiao Yi, 20~29 year old female. Ask Date: 2023/08/23
Dr. Gao Pilin reply Ophthalmology
Hello: 1.
Optic nerve cupping does not necessarily lead to optic nerve damage or glaucoma.
Optic nerve cupping may represent a structural change in the eye, but it does not inherently mean that you will develop optic nerve damage or glaucoma.
2.
Optic nerve cupping is usually not fully reversible, but this does not necessarily mean it will worsen further.
Regular ophthalmic examinations will help monitor your eye condition.
3.
There may be some association between optic nerve cupping and myopia, but it is not a direct causal relationship.
Myopia can affect the structure of the eye, which in turn may impact the status of the optic nerve.
However, this association is not absolute.
4.
Ning Shuo Tong and San Ke Ba are eye drops that do not contain steroids.
You may continue using these drops as advised by your physician.
5.
Serotonin typically does not directly affect the use of eye drops.
6.
If your condition requires a more detailed assessment or specialized treatment, your physician will consider referring you to a larger hospital.
Please rest assured.
Reply Date: 2023/08/23
More Info
Understanding optic nerve cupping and its implications can be quite concerning, especially when you are experiencing symptoms like flashes of light and have been informed about changes in your optic nerve. Let’s address your questions one by one, providing clarity and guidance based on current medical knowledge.
1. Does optic nerve cupping always lead to optic nerve damage and glaucoma?
Optic nerve cupping can be an indicator of glaucoma, but it does not always mean that damage will occur. Cupping refers to the excavation or hollowing of the optic nerve head, which can be caused by increased intraocular pressure (IOP) affecting the nerve fibers. However, some individuals may have a naturally larger optic nerve cup without any associated damage. Regular monitoring of your eye health, including IOP and visual field tests, is crucial to determine if any changes are occurring over time.
2. Can optic nerve cupping be repaired?
Unfortunately, once optic nerve damage has occurred, it cannot be reversed. However, if cupping is detected early and is not associated with significant damage, appropriate management can help prevent further deterioration. This typically involves controlling IOP through medications or other treatments as necessary.
3. Is optic nerve cupping related to myopia (nearsightedness)?
Yes, there is a relationship between myopia and optic nerve cupping. High myopia can lead to structural changes in the eye, including elongation of the eyeball, which can affect the optic nerve head. This can result in a larger cup-to-disc ratio, which may be mistaken for glaucomatous cupping. Regular eye examinations are essential to differentiate between changes due to myopia and those indicative of glaucoma.
4. Do the medications (Ning Shuo Tong and San Ke Ba) contain steroids?
Ning Shuo Tong (Brimonidine) and San Ke Ba (Timolol) are commonly used medications for managing elevated intraocular pressure. Neither of these medications is a steroid. Brimonidine is an alpha agonist that reduces aqueous humor production and increases uveoscleral outflow, while Timolol is a beta-blocker that decreases aqueous humor production. You can continue using these medications as prescribed, but always consult your doctor if you have concerns.
5. Is there a conflict between my psychiatric medication (serotonin) and the eye drops?
Generally, there are no significant interactions between serotonin medications and the eye drops you mentioned. However, it is always best to inform your healthcare providers about all medications you are taking, including psychiatric medications, to ensure comprehensive care and monitoring for any potential side effects.
6. Should I consider going to a larger hospital for further evaluation?
If you feel uncertain about your diagnosis or treatment plan, seeking a second opinion from a specialist at a larger hospital can be beneficial. They may have access to more advanced diagnostic tools and a broader range of expertise in managing complex cases. It’s important to feel confident in your treatment plan, especially when it comes to your vision.
In summary, while optic nerve cupping can be concerning, it does not always indicate imminent damage or glaucoma. Regular monitoring and appropriate management are key to maintaining your eye health. Ensure you follow up with your eye care provider as scheduled and do not hesitate to seek additional opinions if you feel it necessary. Your vision is invaluable, and proactive care is essential in preserving it.
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