Supine shadow
Hello Doctor, thank you very much for your response.
I forgot to mention in my previous question that I see the same oval black shadow with both eyes.
When I close each eye individually, I still see the same shape.
The oval black shadow does not appear when I sleep in a semi-reclined position with my head elevated on a pillow, but it does appear when I lie flat on my back.
I am a bit concerned that it might be due to pressure on the occipital lobe or some other issue.
Here is the previous question I wrote: When I wake up lying on my back, I often see an oval black shadow on the white wall, which is fixed in my field of vision.
It is quite large and does not drift like the type associated with floaters; it resembles the afterimage of a light bulb, but the room is not lit, only illuminated by light coming through the window.
The shadow gradually fades and then disappears after a few minutes.
This symptom only occurs when I am lying on my back; it does not happen when I lie on my side.
I would like to know what might be causing this.
Thank you.
I apologize for asking again because I forgot to include this information.
Sherry, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2023/08/29
Dr. Gao Pilin reply Ophthalmology
Hello: The reason is the same as I mentioned before; both eyes may have vitreous floaters.
Sleeping in a semi-reclined position with your head elevated can prevent the floaters from settling near the retina.
If you sleep on your back, you may see them more clearly.
First, rule out the possibility of light from the window causing this issue by trying to sleep in a dark room.
Upon waking, check if the phenomenon still occurs; if not, it is likely due to light exposure.
It should not be due to pressure from the occipital lobe.
Since a diagnosis cannot be made here, please visit an ophthalmologist to rule out other causes.
Reply Date: 2023/08/29
More Info
The phenomenon you are experiencing, described as elliptical shadows in your vision, particularly when lying flat, can be concerning and warrants a thorough understanding. Based on your description, it seems that these shadows appear primarily when you are in a supine position (lying flat on your back) and are not present when you are in a different position, such as sitting or lying on your side. This positional dependency is an important clue in understanding the potential causes.
Firstly, it is essential to consider the possibility of visual disturbances related to the vitreous body of the eye. The vitreous is a gel-like substance that fills the eye and can undergo changes as we age, leading to symptoms such as floaters or shadows. However, the fact that these shadows are described as large and fixed in your visual field, rather than drifting like typical floaters, suggests that there may be other factors at play.
One possibility is that the shadows you are seeing could be related to the way light enters your eye when you are lying flat. When you are in a supine position, the angle at which light enters your eye changes, which may cause certain visual phenomena, especially if there are any irregularities in the lens or cornea. Additionally, the pressure on the back of the eye from lying flat could potentially influence how light is perceived, leading to these transient shadows.
Another consideration is the role of the brain in processing visual information. The brain can sometimes create visual artifacts, especially in low-light conditions or when transitioning between different visual environments. This could explain why you see these shadows against a white wall when you wake up, as your visual system is adjusting to the light conditions.
Moreover, if you have any underlying conditions affecting your vision, such as retinal issues or optic nerve problems, these could also contribute to the visual disturbances you are experiencing. It is worth noting that the presence of shadows or visual disturbances can sometimes be linked to conditions like migraines or even transient ischemic attacks, although these are less common.
Given your concerns about potential pressure on the occipital lobe (the part of the brain responsible for visual processing), it is crucial to consult with an eye care professional or a neurologist. They can perform a comprehensive examination, including visual field tests, retinal imaging, and possibly neuroimaging if deemed necessary. This will help rule out any serious underlying conditions and provide peace of mind.
In the meantime, it is advisable to monitor the frequency and duration of these shadows. If they become more persistent, change in nature, or are accompanied by other symptoms such as headaches, changes in vision, or other neurological signs, seek medical attention promptly.
In conclusion, while the elliptical shadows you are experiencing may not be indicative of a severe issue, they should not be ignored. A thorough evaluation by a healthcare professional is essential to ensure that your vision remains healthy and to address any potential underlying concerns. Remember, your vision is a vital aspect of your overall well-being, and proactive care is key to maintaining it.
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