The cause could not be determined through gastroscopy?
I would like to ask on behalf of my classmate about his condition; from what I understand, he experiences a metallic smell before vomiting blood, and sometimes he becomes disoriented and needs assistance to be lifted.
He mentioned that he has undergone six gastroscopies, but the cause has not been identified.
I've heard that he might have some sort of gastric spasm.
I want to ask why the cause has not been determined despite these examinations?
A De, 10~19 year old female. Ask Date: 2008/01/23
Dr. Zhang Siyuan reply Gastroenterology and Hepatology
Dear Ade: I can sense your concern for your classmate, which is truly commendable! First, I would like to know if the six gastroscopies were performed by the same physician or by different physicians at different hospitals.
If it is the former, then that physician may highly suspect the presence of a Dieulafoy's lesion in the stomach.
Since this lesion is very small, the bleeding artery can be difficult to detect; however, if an endoscopy is performed immediately during the acute phase of bleeding and the lesion is identified, using hemoclips can potentially completely stop the massive hemorrhage.
Therefore, even if the cause was not found last time, it is important to actively perform another gastroscopy if there is rebleeding.
If it is the latter, due to differences in the cognitive abilities of the examiners, it may be challenging to provide a rationale for why the cause could not be identified.
Ade! Could you provide me with more information about your classmate's condition? Le Sheng Rehabilitation Hospital, Department of Hepatobiliary and Gastroenterology, Dr.
Chang.
Reply Date: 2008/01/23
More Info
The situation you described regarding your classmate's repeated endoscopies and the inability to diagnose the underlying cause of his symptoms is indeed concerning. There are several potential reasons why six endoscopies may have failed to identify the source of his gastrointestinal bleeding and other symptoms.
1. Nature of the Condition: Some gastrointestinal conditions can be elusive and difficult to diagnose. For example, Dieulafoy’s lesion, a rare vascular anomaly, can cause significant bleeding but may not be detected during an endoscopy unless the bleeding is actively occurring. If the endoscopist does not observe the lesion during the procedure, it may be missed entirely. Other conditions, such as small bowel bleeding, can also be challenging to diagnose since the small intestine is not fully visualized during standard upper endoscopy.
2. Timing of the Procedures: The timing of the endoscopies in relation to the bleeding episodes is crucial. If the endoscopies were performed when the patient was not actively bleeding, the likelihood of identifying the source diminishes significantly. Endoscopic procedures are most effective when there is active bleeding, as this increases the chances of visualizing the source.
3. Technical Limitations: The quality of the endoscopic equipment and the experience of the endoscopist can also play a role. If the endoscopist is not experienced in identifying subtle lesions or if the equipment is not of high quality, this could lead to missed diagnoses. Additionally, if the patient has anatomical variations or complications such as strictures or adhesions, these can complicate the visualization of the gastrointestinal tract.
4. Underlying Conditions: Your classmate's symptoms, such as the sensation of a "metallic" or "bloody" taste before vomiting blood, could indicate a more complex underlying condition. Conditions like gastritis, peptic ulcers, or esophageal varices may not always be easily diagnosed with endoscopy alone. Furthermore, if there are motility disorders like gastroparesis or functional dyspepsia, these may not present clear findings during an endoscopic examination.
5. Psychological Factors: In some cases, psychological factors can contribute to gastrointestinal symptoms. Conditions such as anxiety or stress can exacerbate gastrointestinal issues, leading to symptoms that may mimic organic disease without a clear anatomical cause.
6. Need for Advanced Imaging: Sometimes, additional imaging studies such as a CT scan, MRI, or capsule endoscopy may be necessary to visualize areas of the gastrointestinal tract that are not easily accessible through traditional endoscopy. Capsule endoscopy, in particular, allows for visualization of the small intestine and can help identify sources of bleeding that standard endoscopy might miss.
Given these complexities, it is essential for your classmate to continue working closely with a gastroenterologist who can evaluate his symptoms comprehensively. A multidisciplinary approach may be beneficial, involving not only gastroenterologists but also other specialists if necessary. Further diagnostic tests, including imaging studies or even repeat endoscopies during active bleeding, may be warranted to uncover the underlying cause of his symptoms.
In conclusion, while it is frustrating that six endoscopies have not provided answers, the nature of gastrointestinal conditions can be intricate, and persistence in seeking a diagnosis is crucial. Your classmate should be encouraged to maintain open communication with his healthcare providers and advocate for further evaluation as needed.
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