Regarding Emergency Care and DNR-2
Hello: Following up on the previous question, if this person is over 20 years old and has a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) order noted on their IC card, will the hospital still perform resuscitation in the event that the family requests it? Additionally, if the clear reason for the emergency visit is hanging, will the hospital discover if this person has ingested any medication? How will the hospital proceed in this situation? Thank you.
Wendy, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2011/05/11
Dr. Huang Junxiong reply Surgery
Hello: There may not be a standard answer to the same question.
In my opinion, ethically, I would advise family members to respect the patient's wishes and not to perform unnecessary resuscitation.
However, currently, there seems to be no clear legal regulation regarding the effectiveness of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) orders noted on IC cards.
If there are clear regulations in the future, frontline medical personnel should be in a better position to explain to the family (for instance, that violating the patient's wishes by providing resuscitation could lead to legal consequences, including criminal liability).
In cases of hanging brought to the emergency department, blood tests and other examinations are usually required to determine if drugs have been ingested (or even an autopsy).
If the medical history indicates that the patient has ingested drugs, gastric lavage may be performed as an immediate intervention.
Reply Date: 2011/05/11
More Info
When it comes to emergency care and Do Not Resuscitate (DNR) orders, the situation can be quite complex, particularly when family members are involved in decision-making. In the United States, a DNR order is a legal document that indicates a patient's wish not to receive cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) or other life-saving measures in the event of cardiac arrest or respiratory failure. If a patient is over 20 years old and has a DNR order clearly indicated on their identification card, healthcare providers are generally obligated to respect that decision, even if family members request resuscitation.
However, the ethical and legal landscape surrounding DNR orders can be nuanced. In emergency situations, healthcare providers may face pressure from family members who may not fully understand the implications of a DNR order. In such cases, it is crucial for medical staff to communicate effectively with the family, explaining the patient's wishes and the legal ramifications of disregarding a DNR order. In some jurisdictions, ignoring a DNR order at the request of family members could expose healthcare providers to legal liability.
If a patient arrives at the emergency department with a clear indication of a DNR order, medical personnel will typically verify the order and assess the situation. If the patient is in a critical condition, such as having attempted suicide by hanging, the medical team will focus on stabilizing the patient and addressing any immediate life-threatening issues, while also respecting the DNR order. This may involve providing supportive care rather than aggressive resuscitative measures.
Regarding the question of whether the hospital would discover if the patient had ingested any medications, this is a standard part of the emergency evaluation. Medical staff will conduct a thorough assessment, which may include blood tests and toxicology screenings, to determine if there are any substances in the patient's system that could affect their treatment. If there is evidence of drug ingestion, the medical team may take appropriate actions, such as administering activated charcoal if the ingestion was recent, or performing gastric lavage (stomach pumping) if clinically indicated.
In summary, when a patient with a DNR order arrives at the emergency department, healthcare providers must balance the ethical obligation to respect the patient's wishes with the immediate need to provide care. Family members should be educated about the significance of the DNR order and the importance of honoring the patient's autonomy. In cases of suspected drug ingestion, the medical team will conduct necessary evaluations and interventions to ensure the patient's safety while adhering to the DNR directive. It is essential for families to engage in open discussions with their loved ones about end-of-life wishes and to ensure that these wishes are documented clearly to avoid confusion during emergencies.
Similar Q&A
Emergency Response to DNR Orders in Young Patients: A Critical Analysis
If someone ingests 2.5g of Imovane and is found hanging next to a signed Do Not Resuscitate (DNR) order (with only their signature), and they are under 20 years old without a guardian's signature, what actions would an emergency physician take upon arrival at the emergency d...
Dr. Huang Junxiong reply Surgery
Hello: This falls under the scope of medical ethics, and there is no standard answer. In my opinion, if the patient is under the legal age and the guardian cannot be contacted, necessary emergency care should still be provided according to medical protocols.[Read More] Emergency Response to DNR Orders in Young Patients: A Critical Analysis
Deciding on Life Support: A Family's Dilemma After Subarachnoid Hemorrhage
Hello, doctor. My grandfather suffered a subarachnoid hemorrhage due to a car accident. After the incident, he received emergency care and was intubated, but he has not regained consciousness for over three weeks. He has been transferred from the intensive care unit to a respirat...
Dr. Zhang Junwei reply Neurosurgery
Based on patient rights, patients can discuss requests for extubation with their physician at any time.[Read More] Deciding on Life Support: A Family's Dilemma After Subarachnoid Hemorrhage
Can Family Consent to Remove a Ventilator for a Comatose Patient?
Hello, Doctor. My grandmother is about to turn 93 this year. On March 9, she suffered from choking and asphyxiation. The paramedics declared her without vital signs at the scene and subsequently transported her to the hospital for intubation and resuscitation. According to the nu...
Dr. Huang Hongshuo reply Family Medicine
Hello: If it is assessed that Grandma has spontaneous breathing but has throat swelling, there should be a chance to extubate after aggressive edema treatment. Currently, end-stage diseases include cancer, HIV/AIDS, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), and end-stage diseases of t...[Read More] Can Family Consent to Remove a Ventilator for a Comatose Patient?
Improving Survival Chances After Cardiac Arrest: A Family's Journey
Hello, my father collapsed on the first day and was sent to the hospital for emergency treatment. After half an hour, his heartbeat was restored. While being observed in the emergency room, he exhibited signs of seizures, and his Glasgow Coma Scale score was 3. In the evening, he...
Dr. He Dongjin reply Cardiology
Hello, please pray. From a human perspective, the hospital staff has done their utmost for your father. Changhua Hospital is concerned about you.[Read More] Improving Survival Chances After Cardiac Arrest: A Family's Journey
Related FAQ
(Surgery)
Choking(Family Medicine)
Family Medicine(Surgery)
Chest Pain(Surgery)
After Car Accident(Surgery)
Sterilization(Surgery)
Heart Rate(Family Medicine)
Anesthesia(Anesthesiology)
Hypotension(Cardiology)
Postoperative Follow-Up(Obstetrics and Gynecology)