Is surgery urgently needed for a humeral fracture?
Hello, Doctor: My mother is 64 years old and has Parkinson's disease.
She underwent surgery on her left elbow due to an injury from a fall two years ago, but because of an infection, she had to undergo a debridement surgery.
Then, in July of last year, she had a total elbow arthroplasty, which means she has already had three surgeries! Unfortunately, four days ago, she fell again and landed on her left arm.
We rushed her to the emergency room for an X-ray, which revealed that the artificial joint was not dislocated, but the upper arm (humerus) near the elbow was fractured.
The fracture line runs from the upper right to the lower left, exactly where the artificial joint was anchored in the bone.
Since my mother has already undergone multiple surgeries, she is quite fearful of more procedures.
Her bottom line is that she just wants to avoid pain! The orthopedic surgeon on call in the emergency department believes that surgery is not necessary and that a cast will suffice, suggesting that over time, the pain should subside.
He also mentioned that the surgical outcome may not necessarily be better, as he considers the situation too complex and noted that my mother has some osteoporosis, making it difficult to manage in one operation.
The next day, I consulted the attending physician who previously operated on my mother.
Upon seeing the X-ray, he immediately stated that surgery is essential! He believes that without surgery, healing is impossible (due to the use of bone cement), and pain is likely to persist, potentially worsening the condition.
He suggested that a single surgery could resolve the issue, involving first bonding the fracture surfaces, then reinforcing the outer layer with donor bone, and finally stabilizing it with plates and screws.
Since the artificial joint is not dislocated, it does not require intervention, and once the humerus heals, the elbow should regain its current function.
Now, both my mother and I are very hesitant because the opinions of the two doctors are so contradictory.
When I heard the emergency orthopedic surgeon refer to the attending physician as "teacher" during a phone call, I felt uncomfortable relaying the emergency physician's perspective to the attending physician.
Therefore, I would like to seek your opinion! Additionally, if surgery is indeed the better option, is it preferable to have it sooner rather than later? My mother is quite superstitious and believes that this Thursday, according to the lunar calendar, is an inauspicious day for any activities, and she feels anxious about proceeding.
She wants to wait until next Thursday for the surgery, which would mean two weeks after the injury.
Should I insist on having the surgery sooner, or should I respect her feelings to avoid psychological distress that could affect the safety of the procedure?
spot, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2012/03/19
Dr. Shi Guozheng reply Orthopedics
Because there are no visible changes in the imaging, it is difficult to make a judgment.
However, after receiving a joint replacement, if the fracture is unstable, surgery is usually required.
If it is a stable fracture, conservative treatment may be an option.
You may consider consulting a third physician for a second opinion.
If immobilization with a cast can achieve healing, then surgery may not be necessary.
Bones that have undergone multiple surgeries often have osteoporosis, making them more susceptible to fractures.
Reply Date: 2012/03/19
More Info
When it comes to managing a humerus fracture in elderly patients, especially those with complex medical histories like your mother, the decision to proceed with surgery can be quite nuanced. Given your mother's age of 64 and her history of Parkinson's disease, previous surgeries, and the recent fall resulting in a fracture near her elbow, there are several factors to consider.
Surgical Necessity
1. Fracture Type and Location: The nature of the fracture is crucial. If the fracture is non-displaced and stable, conservative treatment with immobilization might be sufficient. However, if the fracture is displaced or involves the area where the artificial joint is anchored, surgical intervention is often necessary to ensure proper healing and to alleviate pain.
2. Bone Quality: You mentioned that your mother has some degree of osteoporosis. This condition can complicate both the healing process and the surgical procedure. Osteoporotic bones may not hold screws or plates as effectively, which can lead to complications post-surgery.
3. Pain Management: Your mother’s primary concern is to avoid pain. If the fracture is not treated surgically, there is a significant risk that she will continue to experience pain and may not regain full function of her arm. Surgery, while it carries risks, often provides a more definitive solution to pain and functional limitations.
Timing of Surgery
1. Urgency: Generally, the sooner a fracture is stabilized, the better the outcome. Delaying surgery can lead to complications such as malunion (healing in an incorrect position) or nonunion (failure to heal), particularly in the context of an elderly patient with existing health issues.
2. Psychological Factors: Your mother’s belief in waiting for a more auspicious time based on superstition can complicate matters. While respecting her feelings is important, it is also crucial to communicate the potential risks of delaying surgery. Prolonged waiting could lead to increased pain and complications.
3. Consultation with Specialists: Since you have conflicting opinions from different orthopedic surgeons, it may be beneficial to seek a third opinion or to have a detailed discussion with the surgeon who has previously treated your mother. This can help clarify the necessity of surgery and the risks involved.
Recommendations
- Communicate Openly: Encourage an open dialogue between your mother and her healthcare providers. It’s essential that she feels comfortable expressing her fears and concerns. This can help in making a more informed decision regarding her treatment.
- Consider a Multidisciplinary Approach: Given her complex medical history, involving a geriatrician or a pain management specialist could provide additional insights into her overall health and the best course of action.
- Evaluate Risks vs. Benefits: Discuss the potential risks of surgery versus the risks of non-surgical management. If surgery is deemed necessary, emphasize that it may significantly improve her quality of life and reduce pain.
- Timing: If surgery is recommended, it is generally advisable to proceed sooner rather than later. If your mother insists on waiting, try to negotiate a shorter timeframe that still allows for her psychological comfort while minimizing the risk of complications.
In conclusion, while the decision to operate on a humerus fracture in an elderly patient is complex, it is often necessary to ensure proper healing and pain management. Open communication with healthcare providers, understanding the risks involved, and addressing psychological concerns are all critical in making the best decision for your mother’s health.
Similar Q&A
Understanding Humeral Shaft Fractures in Elderly Patients: Care and Recovery
Hello Doctor: My grandmother (85 years old) fell and fractured the middle of her left humerus when she was admitted to the hospital. The doctor advised against surgery due to her age and poor recovery ability. She has been cared for for over a year, and a recent X-ray shows some ...
Dr. You Dianqi reply Orthopedics
Hello, the phenomenon you mentioned in medicine is called pseudoarthrosis. If there has been incomplete healing at the fracture site, this is a possibility. As for your grandmother, I would need to review some of her basic imaging before I can provide you with sound advice regard...[Read More] Understanding Humeral Shaft Fractures in Elderly Patients: Care and Recovery
Understanding Comminuted Humerus Fractures: Surgery, Recovery, and Options
Dr. Lee: Hello, my younger brother's mother suffered a humeral fracture in a car accident a week ago, resulting in a comminuted fracture at the junction of the proximal humerus and the long bone with slight displacement. The physician believes that surgery is an option. (1) ...
Dr. Li Wenlin reply Orthopedics
Hello: In response to your question, based on your description, your mother likely has a neck of the humerus fracture. Generally, the decision to operate depends on factors such as age, gender, side of the body, and overall health condition. For instance, for individuals over 65 ...[Read More] Understanding Comminuted Humerus Fractures: Surgery, Recovery, and Options
Understanding Hip Fracture Surgery Options for Elderly Patients
Hello, my grandfather has suffered a fracture between the left hip and the acetabulum due to a fall. The doctor has recommended surgery, but my grandmother had a similar situation where she underwent surgery and the internal fixation screws caused rejection and inflammation, lead...
Dr. Shi Guozheng reply Orthopedics
Fractures near the hip joint are usually best treated with surgery. Sometimes, internal fixation with screws is required, while in other cases, a total hip arthroplasty may be necessary, depending on the situation. Age is not a concern, and prompt surgical intervention leads to f...[Read More] Understanding Hip Fracture Surgery Options for Elderly Patients
Managing Pain in Elderly Patients with Shoulder Fractures: Expert Advice
Hello Doctor, I would like to consult about an 84-year-old patient who suffered a comminuted shoulder fracture due to a fall. Currently, the patient is only using a sling for immobilization, but they are experiencing significant pain. The physician has only prescribed painkillers...
Dr. Wang Shouji reply Orthopedics
Hello: A comminuted fracture of the shoulder can be challenging to manage if the body cannot tolerate the risks of anesthesia. Loose fixation may lead to discomfort and stiffness in the limb. If the cardiopulmonary function is adequate and can withstand anesthesia, surgical fixat...[Read More] Managing Pain in Elderly Patients with Shoulder Fractures: Expert Advice
Related FAQ
(Orthopedics)
Elbow Fracture(Orthopedics)
Elbow Dislocation(Orthopedics)
Metacarpal Fracture(Orthopedics)
Fibula Fracture(Orthopedics)
Radial Fracture(Orthopedics)
Clavicle Fracture(Orthopedics)
Post-Fracture Surgery(Orthopedics)
Scapular Fracture(Orthopedics)
Coccygeal Fracture(Orthopedics)