The phlebotomist touches the puncture site?
Hello Doctor, today during the employee health check, I had a blood draw.
During the process, the nurse touched the insertion site with her left index finger (while the needle was still in place), and she also used her left index finger to apply pressure to the insertion site when removing the needle before placing a cotton ball on it.
At the time, I felt something was off, and two hours later, I started to worry about the possibility of infection.
I asked others, but most didn't pay much attention to the process (most turned their heads away).
Is there a risk of contracting HIV or hepatitis? Since a group of employees was waiting in line for blood draws, and the nurse was not wearing gloves, I don't recall her cleaning her hands after each draw.
When I reported this to the hospital that afternoon, they said the risk of infection is zero.
However, I have an open wound, and considering the nurse drew blood from so many people, what if her finger came into contact with blood? Is there a possibility of contracting HIV or hepatitis? How should I request accountability from the hospital, and when would be the best time to get tested? I'm really worried.
Thank you.
Niming, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2015/09/04
Dr. Gao Jiankai reply Internal Medicine
Hello, thank you for your inquiry.
Since I did not witness the actual procedure, I cannot make a definitive judgment.
However, I will report your concern to the hospital so that the responsible department can investigate whether there was indeed a situation where gloves were not worn during the needle puncture.
As for the risk of infection, the wound from a blood draw is quite small, and given that it involves the withdrawal of the needle, I believe the risk should be very low, so you need not worry too much.
If you are still concerned, you may consider seeing an infectious disease specialist in a month to discuss your concerns with a physician.
The Allergy, Immunology, and Rheumatology Department of Changhua Hospital, Ministry of Health and Welfare, is here to support you.
Reply Date: 2015/09/04
More Info
When it comes to concerns about infection risks after a blood draw, particularly regarding bloodborne pathogens like HIV and hepatitis, it's important to understand the transmission dynamics and the specific circumstances of your situation.
Firstly, the risk of infection from a healthcare worker's finger touching the insertion site during a blood draw is generally considered low, especially if the worker's hands were not visibly contaminated with blood. Bloodborne viruses such as HIV and hepatitis B and C require specific conditions for transmission. For instance, HIV is not easily transmitted through casual contact and is highly sensitive to environmental conditions. Once outside the human body, HIV rapidly loses its infectivity. In fact, studies suggest that HIV cannot survive for more than a few minutes outside the body, and dried blood is even less likely to pose a risk.
In your case, if the nurse's finger did come into contact with blood, the risk of transmission would depend on several factors: whether the nurse had any open cuts or sores on their hands, whether they had recently come into contact with infected blood, and how long the blood had been exposed to the environment. If the nurse was drawing blood from multiple patients without changing gloves or sanitizing their hands, there is a theoretical risk, but it is still considered very low.
Regarding the specific actions taken during your blood draw, if the nurse did not wear gloves and did not sanitize their hands between patients, this is a breach of standard infection control protocols. While the hospital staff may assert that the risk of infection is zero, it is essential to recognize that any breach in protocol can increase the risk, albeit slightly.
If you are feeling anxious about potential exposure, it is advisable to consult with a healthcare provider about your concerns. They may recommend baseline testing for HIV and hepatitis B and C, particularly if you are experiencing symptoms or if you believe there was significant exposure. Testing is typically recommended at baseline, and then again at 6 weeks, 3 months, and 6 months post-exposure to ensure accurate results.
In terms of addressing your concerns with the hospital, it is reasonable to request a meeting with the administration to discuss the incident. You can express your concerns about the lack of adherence to infection control protocols and inquire about their policies regarding staff training and patient safety. Documenting your experience and any communications with the hospital will be helpful if you decide to pursue further action.
In summary, while the risk of contracting HIV or hepatitis from the described scenario is low, it is not entirely absent. If you have any lingering concerns, testing and open communication with healthcare professionals will provide you with the best path forward. Remember, your health and peace of mind are paramount, and it is always better to err on the side of caution when it comes to potential exposure to infectious diseases.
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