Sudden severe knee pain upon waking up?
Hello, doctor.
A few months ago, I occasionally felt tightness in my right knee, but there was no pain.
Today, however, I suddenly experienced severe pain in my knee (woke up from the pain while sleeping), and it hurts whether I straighten or bend it.
Now, I can only walk with a limp on my right leg.
I researched online and found that a torn posterior cruciate ligament (PCL) usually doesn't cause severe pain, but when I tore my left PCL ten years ago, it was just as painful as it is now (is this level of pain normal?).
Could this indicate a torn PCL in my right knee? Ten years ago, the doctor did not strongly recommend surgery for my left knee, so I did not undergo surgery.
If my right PCL is also torn, does that mean both of my knees are affected? Would not having surgery have any consequences? Thank you, doctor, for taking the time to address my concerns.
A Jie, 20~29 year old female. Ask Date: 2017/06/23
Dr. Wang Jiacheng reply Orthopedics
In young individuals, a rupture of the posterior cruciate ligament (PCL) typically occurs due to a severe impact.
If you wake up feeling pain, it is unlikely that the ligament has torn.
If you are concerned, it is best to consult a physician.
A torn posterior cruciate ligament can affect function, and surgical intervention is often recommended.
Reply Date: 2017/06/23
More Info
Sudden severe knee pain upon waking can be alarming, especially when it disrupts your sleep and affects your ability to walk. Based on your description, several potential causes could be contributing to your knee pain, and it’s essential to understand these to seek appropriate treatment.
1. Ligament Injuries: You mentioned the possibility of a posterior cruciate ligament (PCL) injury. While it is true that PCL injuries are often less painful than anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injuries, they can still cause significant discomfort, especially if there is associated swelling or inflammation. The sudden onset of severe pain, particularly after a period of tightness, could indicate a new injury or exacerbation of a previous one.
2. Meniscus Tears: Another common cause of sudden knee pain is a meniscus tear. The meniscus is a C-shaped cartilage that acts as a cushion between your thigh bone and shin bone. If you have had any twisting motion or impact to the knee, this could lead to a tear, which often presents with pain, swelling, and difficulty moving the knee.
3. Patellar Issues: Conditions such as patellar tendinitis or patellofemoral pain syndrome can also lead to sudden pain. These conditions often arise from overuse or strain, especially if you have recently increased your activity level or changed your routine.
4. Bursitis: Inflammation of the bursae (small fluid-filled sacs that cushion the knee joint) can cause pain and stiffness. Bursitis can occur due to repetitive motion or prolonged pressure on the knee.
5. Osteoarthritis: Given your history of knee issues, osteoarthritis could be a contributing factor. This degenerative joint disease can cause pain and stiffness, particularly after periods of inactivity, such as sleeping.
6. Referred Pain: Sometimes, pain in the knee can be referred from other areas, such as the hip or lower back. Conditions affecting these areas can lead to knee pain without any direct injury to the knee itself.
Regarding your concern about whether not having surgery on your left knee after a PCL injury could affect your current situation, it’s essential to note that many individuals live with PCL injuries without surgery, especially if they can maintain knee stability and function. However, if both knees are compromised, it may lead to increased stress on the remaining healthy structures, potentially leading to further injuries or degeneration over time.
Recommendations:
- Seek Medical Evaluation: It is crucial to see an orthopedic specialist who can perform a thorough examination, possibly including imaging studies like an MRI, to assess the condition of your ligaments, menisci, and other knee structures.
- Rest and Ice: Until you can see a doctor, rest your knee, apply ice to reduce swelling, and avoid activities that exacerbate the pain.
- Physical Therapy: If diagnosed with a ligament injury or meniscus tear, physical therapy may be recommended to strengthen the surrounding muscles and improve stability.
- Consider Surgery: If the injury is significant and affects your quality of life, surgical options may be discussed. This is particularly relevant if you experience instability or recurrent pain.
In conclusion, sudden severe knee pain can arise from various causes, and it is essential to obtain a proper diagnosis to guide treatment. Early intervention can help prevent further complications and improve your overall knee function.
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