Immune System Disorders: Insights on Oral Ulcers and Lupus - Internal Medicine

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Hello Doctor, I have been experiencing mouth ulcers, throat pain, and gum pain since last month, and they haven't improved.
A doctor suggested that I see an immunologist.
Below are my health check reports: the report from April this year [link] and the immunology test report from this month [link].
I researched online and found symptoms of systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE):
- Butterfly rash on the face: No
- Discoid rash: No
- Photosensitivity: No
- Oral ulcers: I have developed several this month, they are very painful and haven't healed.
- Arthritis: A bit of temporomandibular joint arthritis, other joints are normal.
- Pleuritis or pericarditis: No
- Kidney disease (proteinuria, hematuria): None currently
- Neurological diseases (epilepsy, psychosis): No
- Blood disorders (low blood cell count): A doctor mentioned my white blood cell count is 4680, slightly low but still within normal range.
- Immune diseases (presence of certain antibodies in blood tests): I cannot understand the report.
- Antinuclear antibodies (ANA): 1:80 - I have a few questions regarding this:
1.
Oral ulcers have not healed for a month, and I have been applying a topical corticosteroid.
2.
Regarding blood disorders, a doctor said my white blood cell count of 4680 is slightly low but still normal.
3.
Antinuclear antibodies: ANA 1:80 - I read online that this is a gray area, and that 1:40 is considered normal.
Does this indicate a higher possibility of lupus now or in the future? I am particularly concerned because my grandmother has lupus.
Should I see a rheumatologist, or continue to follow up with my dentist? How long should I wait before re-evaluating? Thank you very much for your guidance.

liz, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2018/07/07

Dr. Lin Wuxuan reply Internal Medicine


Hello: Based on the two blood test reports you provided, there are no abnormalities indicated, and the symptoms you described do not have any clear association with systemic lupus erythematosus.
Generally speaking, different laboratories may have variations in measurement values due to differences in equipment and testing methods, so interpretations may need to be adjusted accordingly.
However, as long as the test values fall within the recommended normal range, there is essentially no issue of a gray area.
For oral issues, it is advisable to consult with a dentist or an otolaryngologist, as there may sometimes be other inflammatory or infectious problems.
If the underlying issues are appropriately addressed, I believe that the problems of oral ulcers and throat pain can be resolved.
Furthermore, your white blood cell count and ANA (antinuclear antibody) levels are normal.
Under normal circumstances, physiological values in the human body fluctuate within a certain range, so if there are no abnormal values present, there is no need to worry about potential health issues.
If you still have concerns, it is recommended to follow up in three to six months.

Reply Date: 2018/07/07

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Understanding the relationship between oral ulcers and immune system disorders, particularly systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE), is crucial for effective diagnosis and management. Oral ulcers can be a common manifestation in various autoimmune conditions, including SLE. Your symptoms of persistent oral ulcers, throat pain, and gingival discomfort warrant a thorough evaluation, especially given your family history of lupus.

Firstly, it is essential to recognize that oral ulcers can arise from multiple causes, including infections, nutritional deficiencies, stress, and autoimmune diseases. In the context of SLE, oral ulcers are often painful and can be recurrent. They may appear as shallow, painful lesions that can significantly affect quality of life, making eating and speaking uncomfortable.

Your recent lab results indicate the presence of antinuclear antibodies (ANA) at a titer of 1:80. While this finding can be associated with autoimmune diseases, including lupus, it is important to note that a positive ANA test alone is not diagnostic of SLE. Many healthy individuals can have a positive ANA, and the interpretation of this result must be contextualized with clinical symptoms and other laboratory findings. The "gray area" you mentioned refers to the fact that ANA titers can vary widely among individuals, and a titer of 1:80 is often considered low and may not be clinically significant without accompanying symptoms.

Regarding your white blood cell count, a value of 4680 is indeed within the normal range, albeit on the lower end. This slight decrease is not uncommon and may not indicate an underlying pathology, especially if you are otherwise healthy. However, persistent oral ulcers and other systemic symptoms should not be overlooked.

Given your symptoms and family history, it would be prudent to consult a rheumatologist or an immunologist. These specialists can perform a more comprehensive evaluation, including additional antibody tests (such as anti-dsDNA and anti-Smith antibodies), which are more specific for lupus. They can also assess for other potential autoimmune conditions that may present similarly.

In the meantime, managing your oral ulcers is essential. Continuing the use of topical corticosteroids may help alleviate pain and promote healing. Additionally, maintaining good oral hygiene and avoiding irritants (such as spicy or acidic foods) can be beneficial. Nutritional support, particularly ensuring adequate intake of B vitamins, may also play a role in oral health, as deficiencies can contribute to ulcer formation.

If your symptoms persist or worsen, or if you develop new symptoms such as joint pain, skin rashes, or systemic signs like fever or fatigue, it is crucial to seek medical attention promptly. Regular follow-ups with your healthcare provider are recommended to monitor your condition and adjust treatment as necessary.

In summary, while your symptoms could be indicative of an autoimmune process, particularly given your family history, a definitive diagnosis requires a comprehensive evaluation by a specialist. It is essential to approach this systematically, considering both your clinical presentation and laboratory findings. Regular monitoring and open communication with your healthcare team will be vital in managing your health effectively.

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