Topical retinoic acid and oral azelaic acid issues?
Hello, doctor.
I have been troubled by acne and pigmented acne scars for a long time.
I am taking 20 mg of oral isotretinoin daily, applying azelaic acid in the morning, and using a third-generation retinoid at night.
I would like to know if this regimen is too much for my skin.
When I apply azelaic acid, I do not feel itching, but I do experience a stinging sensation without any redness; the third-generation retinoid does not cause much sensation.
However, after using these products for two to three days, I noticed a stinging feeling on my skin, and when I apply facial cleanser, it also stings.
I thought it might be due to dryness, so I used a hydrating mask, but it stung for about five minutes while on.
Is this normal? I feel like I might be using too much azelaic acid and retinoid; could you advise me on the appropriate amount to apply for the entire face? It has been a week, and my skin is very dry, but there is significant improvement in the pigmented scars and acne.
I would like to ask if the stinging sensation is coming from the oral isotretinoin, azelaic acid, or the third-generation retinoid?
Lu Xueze, 10~19 year old female. Ask Date: 2020/08/11
Dr. Wu Yuxin reply Dermatology
Almost all issues are related to skin dryness caused by the use of retinoids.
If this is the case, it is advisable to discontinue the retinoids and discuss it with your physician.
Reply Date: 2020/08/11
More Info
Managing skin irritation, especially when using topical and oral retinoids like A acids, requires a careful balance and understanding of how these products interact with your skin. Based on your description, it seems you are experiencing some discomfort, which is not uncommon when starting or adjusting a regimen that includes potent active ingredients.
Firstly, let's address the combination of oral A acid (isotretinoin) and topical acids like azelaic acid (杜鵑花酸) and third-generation retinoids. Isotretinoin is known for its effectiveness in treating acne and reducing scarring, but it can also lead to dryness, irritation, and increased sensitivity of the skin. When combined with topical acids, the risk of irritation can increase, especially if the skin is not adequately acclimated to these products.
The sensation of stinging or tingling you are experiencing, particularly when applying the azelaic acid and the third-generation retinoid, could be attributed to several factors:
1. Skin Barrier Function: Both oral and topical A acids can compromise the skin barrier, leading to increased transepidermal water loss and dryness. This can make your skin more sensitive to other products, including cleansers and moisturizers.
2. Concentration and Frequency: The amount of product you apply matters. For topical treatments, a pea-sized amount for the entire face is generally recommended. If you feel you are using more than this, it could lead to excessive irritation.
3. Layering Products: Applying multiple active ingredients in a short time frame can overwhelm the skin. It’s essential to allow your skin to adjust to one product before introducing another. If you are using azelaic acid in the morning and a retinoid at night, ensure that you are not layering too many products on top of each other, which can lead to irritation.
4. Moisturization: Since you mentioned using a hydrating mask, it’s crucial to follow up with a good moisturizer after applying active ingredients. If the mask causes stinging, it might be too potent for your current skin condition. Look for gentle, hydrating products that are free from fragrances and irritants.
5. Timing and Application: Consider applying the azelaic acid and retinoid on alternate days or reducing the frequency of application to allow your skin to recover. For instance, you might use azelaic acid in the morning and the retinoid every other night instead of nightly.
Regarding the specific amounts to use, a general guideline is to apply a thin layer of each product, typically a pea-sized amount for the face. If you are experiencing persistent stinging or discomfort, it may be wise to reduce the amount or frequency of application until your skin adjusts.
In summary, the stinging sensation you are experiencing could be due to the cumulative effects of the oral A acid and the topical treatments. It's essential to listen to your skin and adjust your regimen accordingly. If the irritation persists or worsens, consulting with a dermatologist would be beneficial. They can provide personalized advice and may suggest alternative treatments or adjustments to your current regimen to ensure you achieve the desired results without compromising your skin's health.
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