Abdominal pain and back pain?
Hello doctor, my father has been experiencing upper abdominal pain and back pain for almost three months.
During this time, any physical exertion, bending over, or certain positions trigger severe pain.
Normally, the pain varies from intense to mild, and sometimes it occurs simultaneously in both areas or separately.
About a month ago, he visited a hospital where he underwent an ultrasound and a CT scan; the pancreas, liver, and kidneys were found to be normal, with only mild inflammation of the gallbladder but no stones.
The doctor prescribed antibiotics, but the pain persisted.
Recently, he switched to another hospital, where the doctor mentioned that mild gallbladder inflammation would not cause such pain.
An endoscopy was performed, and the doctor diagnosed a gastric ulcer and prescribed medication.
However, the doctor is still uncertain about the cause of the pain.
I would like to ask if there are any other potential causes for abdominal and back pain, and whether a gastric ulcer can cause abdominal and back pain?
Du, 20~29 year old female. Ask Date: 2021/01/06
Dr. Chen Shidian reply Gastroenterology and Hepatology
Further examination is needed to determine if there is spinal nerve compression.
Reply Date: 2021/01/06
More Info
Understanding abdominal and back pain can be quite complex, especially when symptoms persist over an extended period, as in your father's case. The interplay between abdominal pain and back pain can stem from various underlying conditions, and it’s essential to consider both the gastrointestinal and musculoskeletal systems when evaluating these symptoms.
Potential Causes of Abdominal and Back Pain
1. Gastrointestinal Issues:
- Peptic Ulcer Disease: As you've mentioned, your father has been diagnosed with a gastric ulcer. Ulcers can cause significant abdominal pain, which may radiate to the back. This is due to the shared nerve pathways in the thoracic region. The pain can be exacerbated by certain positions or activities, particularly those that increase abdominal pressure.
- Cholecystitis: While your father has been noted to have mild inflammation of the gallbladder without stones, this condition can still cause referred pain to the back, particularly in the right shoulder blade area.
- Pancreatitis: Although imaging has ruled out significant issues with the pancreas, mild inflammation can still cause discomfort that radiates to the back.
- Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease (GERD): This condition can lead to pain that mimics cardiac issues but is often felt in the upper abdomen and can radiate to the back.
2. Musculoskeletal Causes:
- Muscle Strain: Activities that involve heavy lifting or awkward movements can strain the muscles in the back and abdomen, leading to pain that may be felt in both areas. This is particularly relevant if your father has been engaging in activities that require bending or lifting.
- Herniated Discs: Issues with the spine, such as herniated discs, can cause referred pain to the abdomen and back. If nerve roots are compressed, this can lead to pain that radiates along the nerves.
- Postural Issues: Poor posture, especially during activities that involve bending or lifting, can lead to muscle imbalances and pain in both the back and abdomen.
3. Referred Pain:
- Pain from one area of the body can often be felt in another due to the way nerves are interconnected. For example, irritation of the diaphragm can cause shoulder pain, while issues in the abdominal organs can lead to back pain.
The Connection Between Gastric Ulcers and Pain
Gastric ulcers can indeed cause both abdominal and back pain. The pain from an ulcer is often described as a burning sensation and can be aggravated by eating, lying down, or bending. The discomfort may also radiate to the back, particularly if the ulcer is located in the upper part of the stomach.
Next Steps
Given that your father has undergone various imaging studies and treatments without significant relief, it may be beneficial to consider the following:
- Further Evaluation: If the pain persists, a referral to a gastroenterologist for further evaluation may be warranted. This could include more specialized tests such as an upper GI series or endoscopy to assess the extent of the ulcer and rule out other gastrointestinal issues.
- Pain Management: Consultation with a pain management specialist could provide additional strategies to manage chronic pain, including physical therapy, medications, or alternative therapies.
- Lifestyle Modifications: Encourage your father to adopt lifestyle changes that may alleviate symptoms, such as dietary modifications, stress management techniques, and regular physical activity tailored to his condition.
Conclusion
In summary, the interplay between abdominal and back pain can be multifactorial, involving gastrointestinal, musculoskeletal, and referred pain mechanisms. It is crucial to continue working closely with healthcare providers to explore all potential causes and develop a comprehensive treatment plan. Addressing both the physical and emotional aspects of chronic pain can lead to better outcomes and improved quality of life for your father.
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