Pain in Elbow and Knee Joints During Bending: Causes and Solutions - Orthopedics

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Pain when the elbow joint and knee joint touch during bending?


Hello, doctor.
I started experiencing the following symptoms around March: pain near the protruding bone of my elbow and in the area on the outer side of my patella (kneecap) when bending, especially if there is external pressure, such as when kneeling on the ground or on a bed.
However, there is no pain with simple bending or walking, and pressing on the area in a normal state does not cause much pain.
The symptoms mainly occur when I am cleaning and need to bend my knees or arms.
From the outside, the area around the painful spots seems slightly swollen.
I am unsure what these symptoms indicate, and I would appreciate your clarification.
Thank you!

Xiao Xiaojie, 50~59 year old female. Ask Date: 2021/06/15

Dr. Shi Guozheng reply Orthopedics


Avoiding excessive movements mentioned above can improve ligament or synovial inflammation.
If it does not improve, then seek medical attention.

Reply Date: 2021/06/15

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The symptoms you are experiencing in your elbow and knee joints during bending, particularly pain in the area around the elbow and the lateral aspect of the patella (kneecap), can be attributed to several potential causes. Given the specific nature of your pain—occurring primarily during activities that involve bending and pressure, such as kneeling or cleaning—there are a few possibilities to consider.


Possible Causes
1. Bursitis: Both the elbow and knee joints have bursae, which are small fluid-filled sacs that help reduce friction between tissues. Inflammation of these bursae (bursitis) can lead to pain, especially when the joint is bent or under pressure. For the elbow, this is often referred to as "olecranon bursitis," while for the knee, it could be "prepatellar bursitis."
2. Tendinitis: Inflammation of the tendons around the elbow (such as the triceps tendon) or knee (such as the quadriceps or patellar tendon) can cause pain during bending. This is often due to overuse or repetitive strain, particularly if you engage in activities that require frequent bending or heavy lifting.

3. Patellofemoral Pain Syndrome: This condition is characterized by pain around the kneecap, particularly during activities that involve bending the knee, such as squatting or kneeling. It can be exacerbated by activities that put pressure on the knee joint.

4. Ligament or Cartilage Injury: While less likely given your description, injuries to the ligaments (such as the lateral collateral ligament) or cartilage (such as a meniscus tear in the knee) can also cause pain during movement. These injuries often present with swelling and may be accompanied by a feeling of instability in the joint.

5. Osteoarthritis: If you have a history of joint issues or if you are of an age where degenerative changes are common, osteoarthritis could be a factor. This condition typically leads to joint pain and stiffness, particularly with movement.


Suggested Solutions
1. Rest and Activity Modification: Avoid activities that exacerbate your symptoms, particularly those that involve kneeling or heavy lifting. Allowing your joints to rest can help reduce inflammation.

2. Ice Therapy: Applying ice to the affected areas can help reduce swelling and numb the pain. It is generally recommended to ice the area for 15-20 minutes every few hours, especially after activities that provoke pain.

3. Compression and Elevation: Using a compression bandage can help manage swelling. Elevating the affected joints can also assist in reducing inflammation.

4. Physical Therapy: A physical therapist can provide exercises to strengthen the muscles around the elbow and knee, improve flexibility, and enhance joint stability. They can also teach you proper techniques to avoid aggravating your symptoms.

5. Over-the-Counter Pain Relief: Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as ibuprofen or naproxen can help alleviate pain and reduce inflammation. However, it is essential to follow the recommended dosages and consult with a healthcare provider if you have any underlying health conditions.

6. Medical Evaluation: If your symptoms persist or worsen, it is crucial to seek a thorough evaluation from a healthcare professional. They may recommend imaging studies, such as X-rays or MRIs, to assess for any underlying structural issues.


Conclusion
In summary, the pain you are experiencing in your elbow and knee during bending could be due to several factors, including bursitis, tendinitis, or patellofemoral pain syndrome. Implementing rest, ice therapy, and possibly physical therapy can help alleviate your symptoms. However, if the pain continues, a medical evaluation is necessary to rule out more serious conditions and to develop a tailored treatment plan. Always consult with a healthcare professional for a definitive diagnosis and personalized advice.

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