Shoulder and back pain?
Hello, Doctor.
Recently, I've been experiencing frequent upper back pain (on the right side, around the scapula) for the past two months.
Sometimes, I also have shoulder pain (on both sides).
When I turn my head to the left, I feel a slight pain...
It hurts when I sit for a long time, and sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night due to the pain.
Moving around a bit helps alleviate it.
Last September, I had an MRI (due to back pain and numbness in my back), and the report is as follows: MRI study of the thoracic spine without contrast enhancement with sagittal image SET1WI, FSE T2WI; axial image SE T1WI, FSE T2WI: Findings: 1.
Smooth alignment of the thoracic spine.
2.
Posterior bulging disc at C6/7 with mild anterior indentation on the thecal sac and mild narrowing of bilateral neural foramina.
3.
No apparent abnormal signal intensity change in the cord or thecal sac.
4.
No bony fracture or bony pathology.
IMP: Posterior bulging disc at C6/7 with mild anterior indentation on the thecal sac and mild narrowing of bilateral neural foramina.
Since I cannot understand the report, I would like to ask the doctor if my pain is related to the previous symptoms? What could be the possible causes? Thank you very much!
sophia, 40~49 year old female. Ask Date: 2022/01/18
Dr. Jiang Junyi reply Neurology
Dear Miss Sophia,
You mentioned, "Is the pain related to previous symptoms? What could be the possible causes?" Your MRI report indicates: 2.
Posterior bulging disc of C6/7 with mild anterior indentation on the thecal sac and mild narrowing of bilateral neural foramina.
Conclusion: IMP: Posterior bulging disc of C6/7 with mild anterior indentation on the thecal sac and mild narrowing of bilateral neural foramina.
The sixth and seventh cervical discs have caused slight nerve root compression due to disc degeneration.
Generally, your symptoms should first consider inflammation of the trapezius fascia, which is related to nerve root compression.
The dorsal scapular nerve branches from the fifth cervical nerve root and extends downward to innervate the levator scapulae muscle.
The fifth cervical nerve root can be compressed due to disc herniation, vertebral slippage, or osteophyte formation, leading to pain in the dorsal scapular nerve, which is one of the most common causes of referred pain in that area.
I recommend the following:
1.
Change positions: Change your posture every 15 minutes to allow the neck tissues to rest.
Maintaining any posture (including normal ones) for an extended period can lead to tissue fatigue and inflammation, so moving around briefly can reduce the chance of muscle inflammation.
2.
Rest: Rest is essential to allow the muscles to utilize their self-repair capabilities; avoid vigorous exercise during this time.
3.
Neck heat therapy: Apply heat for 15 to 20 minutes, ensuring the temperature is safe to avoid burns.
4.
Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs): If you do not have a history of gastric ulcers, allergies to NSAIDs, or impaired kidney function, you may consider using NSAIDs to reduce inflammation and alleviate pain.
5.
Neck muscle stretching exercises: After the acute pain phase, it is advisable to develop a routine of slow, gentle neck stretches every 15-20 minutes at angles that do not cause discomfort, including movements up, down, left, and right.
I suggest discussing further examination and treatment options with a neurologist or a rehabilitation physician.
Thank you for your inquiry, and feel free to discuss further! Wishing you good health, peace, and joy.
Dr.
Jiang Junyi, Department of Neurology, Taoyuan Hospital
Reply Date: 2022/01/18
More Info
Understanding upper back pain can be complex, especially when considering the connections to MRI findings. Your symptoms, including upper back pain localized to the right side, shoulder pain, and discomfort when turning your head, are indeed concerning and warrant a thorough evaluation.
Based on your MRI report from September, it indicates a posterior bulging disc at the C6/7 level, which is causing mild indentation on the thecal sac and narrowing of the bilateral neural foramina. This finding suggests that there is some degree of nerve root compression, which can lead to pain, numbness, or weakness in the areas supplied by the affected nerves. In your case, the C6 and C7 nerve roots are likely involved, which can contribute to pain radiating into the shoulder and upper back.
The relationship between your current symptoms and the MRI findings is significant. The bulging disc may be causing irritation or compression of the nerves that innervate the muscles in your upper back and shoulders. This can lead to muscle tension and pain, particularly if you are maintaining poor posture or sitting for extended periods, as you mentioned. The fact that your pain sometimes wakes you at night and improves with movement suggests that it may be related to nerve irritation or muscle spasms.
There are several potential causes for your symptoms:
1. Cervical Radiculopathy: The bulging disc at C6/7 can lead to cervical radiculopathy, where the nerve roots are compressed, causing pain that can radiate to the shoulder and upper back. This is consistent with your description of pain when turning your head.
2. Muscle Strain or Tension: Prolonged sitting and poor posture can lead to muscle strain, particularly in the trapezius and rhomboid muscles, which can cause upper back pain. This is often exacerbated by stress and tension.
3. Referred Pain: Sometimes, pain in the upper back can be referred from other areas, such as the cervical spine or even the thoracic spine. The interconnected nature of the spine means that issues in one area can manifest as pain in another.
4. Degenerative Changes: As we age, the discs and joints in the spine can undergo degenerative changes, leading to bulging discs, arthritis, and other conditions that can contribute to pain.
To address your symptoms, consider the following recommendations:
- Posture Correction: Ensure that your workstation is ergonomically set up to promote good posture. Take breaks every 15-30 minutes to stretch and change positions.
- Physical Therapy: A physical therapist can provide targeted exercises to strengthen the muscles supporting your spine and improve flexibility, which may alleviate some of your pain.
- Heat Therapy: Applying heat to the affected area can help relax tense muscles and improve blood flow, providing relief from pain.
- Medication: Over-the-counter nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) can help reduce inflammation and alleviate pain, but consult your physician before starting any medication.
- Follow-Up MRI: If your symptoms persist or worsen, a follow-up MRI may be warranted to assess any changes in your condition, especially if there are concerns about the progression of the bulging disc or other spinal issues.
In conclusion, your upper back pain is likely connected to the MRI findings of the bulging disc at C6/7, which may be causing nerve root irritation. Addressing your symptoms through posture correction, physical therapy, and possibly medication can help manage your pain. If symptoms persist, further evaluation by a specialist may be necessary to explore additional treatment options. Always consult with your healthcare provider for personalized advice and treatment plans.
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