Spontaneous breathing
Hello, my father was sent to Chung Shan Hospital for emergency treatment after collapsing at home.
After a period of treatment in the intensive care unit, his heart rate and blood pressure stabilized, but he remains in a coma with weak spontaneous breathing and still requires intubation.
He has now been transferred from the ICU to a respiratory care unit.
The day before yesterday, the hospital informed us that he needs to undergo a bronchoscopy to examine his lungs.
During the procedure, 950cc of fluid was drained and mucus was cleared for examination.
The bronchoscopy and MRI indicated the presence of inflammatory fluid without any other significant findings.
So, I would like to ask the doctor, does my father have a chance to be extubated? Currently, he has been diagnosed with hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy.
We originally planned to wait for his lung condition to stabilize before transferring him to a hospital in Taichung for treatment and to attempt hyperbaric oxygen therapy, but we are now concerned about the risks associated with transferring him due to his lung issues.
Mr. Jiang, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2022/02/18
Dr. Yang Wenda reply Pulmonology
Hello: The condition of your father and the ability to remove the tube (typically, for patients who are unconscious and unable to effectively cough up secretions, it is not recommended to remove the tube, as they are more likely to experience hypoxia due to ineffective clearance of secretions and may require re-intubation) will depend on subsequent follow-up X-rays and the improvement of his condition.
Only the attending physician can answer your questions; other doctors cannot determine the prognosis on their behalf!
Reply Date: 2022/02/18
More Info
Weaning from mechanical ventilation is a complex process that requires careful consideration of a patient's overall health status, particularly in cases where there are complications such as pneumonia or other respiratory issues. In your father's situation, it sounds like he has faced significant challenges, including a prolonged period of unconsciousness, weak spontaneous breathing, and the presence of pleural effusion (fluid accumulation in the pleural space).
The fact that he has been moved from the intensive care unit (ICU) to a respiratory care unit indicates that his condition may have stabilized to some extent, but the need for continued ventilation suggests that he is not yet ready to breathe independently. The recent procedures, including the bronchoscopy to remove fluid and secretions, are critical steps in managing his lung health. The presence of inflammation and fluid in the lungs can significantly impact his ability to wean off the ventilator.
In terms of weaning, several factors will be taken into account:
1. Lung Function: The primary goal is to ensure that your father's lungs can adequately exchange oxygen and carbon dioxide without mechanical assistance. This involves monitoring his oxygen levels, respiratory rate, and overall lung mechanics. If the inflammation and fluid accumulation are resolved, it may improve his chances of weaning off the ventilator.
2. Neurological Status: The diagnosis of hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy (brain injury due to lack of oxygen) is concerning. The extent of this injury can affect his ability to recover and respond to treatment. A thorough neurological assessment will be necessary to determine his cognitive function and ability to cooperate with weaning efforts.
3. Overall Health: Your father's general health, including his cardiovascular stability, nutritional status, and the presence of any other underlying conditions, will influence his recovery and ability to wean from the ventilator.
4. Supportive Care: Ensuring that he receives appropriate supportive care, including physical therapy and respiratory therapy, can help improve his lung function and overall strength, which are essential for successful weaning.
5. Multidisciplinary Approach: The involvement of a multidisciplinary team, including pulmonologists, neurologists, and rehabilitation specialists, will be crucial in developing a comprehensive care plan tailored to your father's needs.
Regarding the transfer to another hospital for hyperbaric oxygen therapy, it is essential to weigh the risks and benefits. If his lung condition is unstable, transferring him could pose additional risks. The medical team will need to assess whether he is stable enough for transfer and whether the potential benefits of hyperbaric oxygen therapy outweigh the risks associated with moving him.
In conclusion, while there is a possibility for your father to be weaned off the ventilator, it will depend on the resolution of his lung issues, his neurological recovery, and his overall health status. Continuous communication with the healthcare team is vital to understand his progress and the next steps in his care. They will provide the most accurate information based on his specific situation and ongoing assessments. It is crucial to remain hopeful and engaged in the process, as recovery can take time and may involve various stages of rehabilitation.
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