Managing Panic Attacks: Questions About Medication and Treatment Options - Psychiatry

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Hello, I would like to inquire about a medication issue?


Over the past two years, I have been taking 10mg of an antidepressant and 1.5 capsules of Rifuxin daily for about three months.
My panic attacks significantly improved, and I experienced no side effects from the medication.
Gradually, my doctor informed me that I could reduce my dosage.
In the following year, I only took a small amount of Rifuxin or Clonazepam during emergency situations when panic attacks occurred.
Recently, in the past month, my panic attacks have become very frequent again, likely due to work-related stress.
I started taking Rifuxin again, but I feel that my autonomic nervous system dysfunction has not completely resolved.
I experience fatigue, flushing, heat, and trembling.
Every day when I wake up, I feel a bit uncomfortable, but since I have improved significantly compared to before, I didn't think much of it.
However, with this relapse, I started to wonder if I should have stayed on the medication longer to stabilize my condition, so my brain wouldn't feel so scattered.

Yesterday, I visited my doctor, who prescribed Liyou (an antidepressant).
I would like to ask if it is the same as the antidepressant I was taking before.
I still have some of the old antidepressants left, so I took one before bed yesterday, but I felt nauseous and couldn't sleep all night.
Why did I not experience side effects before, but suddenly have them now?
1.
Is Liyou the same medication as the antidepressant? Otherwise, I would be worried about running out of my old medication.
2.
The nausea is very uncomfortable; can I start with half a dose and gradually increase it?
3.
Is it better to take this medication during the day or at night?
4.
Do I need to take it in conjunction with Rifuxin? I previously took half a capsule of Rifuxin together with it and did not experience side effects.
5.
Can I take over-the-counter GABA supplements alongside this medication? Are those supplements effective?
6.
I heard that Maca can help stabilize the nervous system and reduce fatigue.
Will taking it with these medications have any effects?
7.
What should I do when I feel nauseous? Can I take anti-nausea medication from my previous cold medicine?
8.
I feel like I will never fully recover, and I am really scared.
I feel so exhausted.
Although my situation may not seem severe to many, I have been unable to go out much during the summer for the past few years, as my body seems unable to sweat.
I feel overwhelmed every day, and anxiety and panic prevent me from going anywhere.
The antidepressants I took before did help, but not completely.
What will it take for me to feel better? I put very little pressure on myself and don't want to rush things, but I see no hope.
I feel like I'm going crazy.
The doctor I saw this time had a very poor attitude, making it hard for me to trust him.
I can't get an appointment with my previous doctor at the large hospital, so I am really worried about facing all these issues.
Thank you, doctor.
Please help me.
I'm begging you.

Kiki, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2022/02/26

Dr. Lin Mianzhang reply Psychiatry


Hello Kiki: 1.
The antidepressant and Liyou contain the same active ingredient.
2.
Yes, starting with a low dose can reduce the likelihood of side effects.
3.
Both options are fine; some people may feel sleepy after taking it and can take it before bed, while others can take it during the day.
4.
No need, Rifampin cannot alleviate the nausea side effect.
5.
It may also be ineffective, as there is currently no clear evidence supporting its efficacy.
6.
There is insufficient data in this area, so it is unclear whether it will interact with other medications.
7.
You can reduce the dosage and gradually increase it based on your situation; it is advisable to discuss this with your physician.
Anti-nausea medications are not recommended.
8.
In fact, your previous improvement after medication indicates that your condition is at least treatable.
You can think of yourself as having a sensitive constitution, similar to individuals with skin or nasal sensitivities; your sensitivity pertains to the autonomic nervous system.
A slight external stimulus, stress, or emotional change may trigger panic attacks.
This type of sensitivity can be improved through adjustments in diet, exercise, routine, and mindset, and details should be discussed with your physician.
If you feel that your current doctor is not a good fit, consider finding another one! However, it is still recommended to continue your medication, and ideally, combine it with psychotherapy for a faster recovery.
Wishing you a speedy recovery!

Reply Date: 2022/02/26

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Managing panic attacks and the associated medication can be a complex and challenging process, especially when dealing with the side effects and the psychological impact of these conditions. It’s important to approach this situation with care and a thorough understanding of the medications involved, as well as the underlying issues contributing to your panic attacks.

1. Understanding Your Medications: You mentioned taking "離憂" (likely referring to "Luvox" or fluvoxamine) and "抑鬱錠" (which may refer to an antidepressant). While both medications can be used to treat depression and anxiety disorders, they are not necessarily the same. Luvox is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) that is often prescribed for obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and panic disorder, while other antidepressants may have different mechanisms of action. It’s crucial to confirm with your healthcare provider whether these medications are interchangeable or if they serve different purposes in your treatment plan.

2. Managing Side Effects: If you experience nausea after taking your medication, it’s reasonable to consider starting with a lower dose. Many medications can be titrated, meaning you can begin with a smaller dose and gradually increase it as your body adjusts. However, this should always be done under the guidance of your healthcare provider. They can help you determine the best approach to minimize side effects while still effectively managing your symptoms.

3. Timing of Medication: The timing of when you take your medication can significantly impact how you feel. Some people find that taking their medication at night helps reduce daytime side effects, such as drowsiness or nausea. Others may prefer taking it in the morning. Discuss with your doctor the best time for you to take your medication based on your daily routine and how you typically respond to it.

4. Combining Medications: It’s essential to consult your doctor before combining medications, such as taking Luvox with "利福全" (likely referring to "Rifampicin"). Certain combinations can lead to increased side effects or reduced effectiveness. Your doctor can provide guidance on whether these medications can be safely taken together.

5. Over-the-Counter Supplements: Regarding the use of over-the-counter supplements like GABA or Maca, it’s important to approach these with caution. While some people report benefits from these supplements, they can interact with prescription medications. Always discuss any supplements you wish to take with your healthcare provider to ensure they won’t interfere with your treatment.

6. Dealing with Nausea: If you experience nausea, it’s advisable to consult your doctor about safe options to alleviate this symptom. Some over-the-counter medications can help with nausea, but you should confirm with your healthcare provider before taking anything new.

7. Long-Term Management: It’s understandable to feel overwhelmed and anxious about your condition, especially if you’ve experienced setbacks. Recovery from panic attacks and anxiety can be a gradual process, and it often requires a combination of medication, therapy, and lifestyle changes. Cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) is particularly effective for panic disorder and can help you develop coping strategies.

8. Seeking Support: If you feel that your current healthcare provider is not supportive or understanding, it’s important to seek a second opinion. Finding a provider who listens to your concerns and works collaboratively with you on your treatment plan can make a significant difference in your recovery journey.

In conclusion, managing panic attacks and the medications associated with them requires careful consideration and collaboration with your healthcare provider. It’s essential to communicate openly about your symptoms, side effects, and any concerns you may have. With the right support and treatment plan, many individuals find relief from their symptoms and can regain a sense of normalcy in their lives. Remember, you are not alone in this journey, and there are effective treatments available to help you manage your panic attacks and anxiety.

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