Chemotherapy followed by lumpectomy for breast cancer... Regarding the question about the "pathology report stating" that cancer cells are dead, what related issues should be considered?
Hello, the relevant tests and biopsy indicated "triple-negative, 4 cm." At that time, I asked the doctor about the tumor being 1 cm away from the breast tissue...
"left breast cancer." I underwent neoadjuvant chemotherapy (8 cycles), and by the 6th cycle, "ultrasound could no longer detect the tumor." I completed a total of 8 cycles of chemotherapy.
Afterward, I had a lumpectomy, and a week later, the "pathology report" stated that "cancer cells were dead." A total of three sentinel lymph nodes were removed, and there was no infection.
I have a couple of questions:
1.
Regarding the situation where "the tumor was not visible after chemotherapy, and the pathology report stated that 'cancer cells were dead,'" does this mean there is no concern about cancer cells at the original tumor site? (I have read online that some cancer cells can adhere to the skin, and I am unsure if this is related.)
2.
After that, I received 16 sessions of radiation therapy, along with respiratory control.
I heard that some people receive an additional 4 sessions of intensified treatment targeting the original tumor site, but the doctor did not mention this (as the treatment was nearing completion).
I would like to know if, given that "the tumor was not visible after chemotherapy and the pathology report stated that 'cancer cells were dead,'" is there still a need for intensified treatment with the additional 4 sessions targeting the original tumor site?
I am infinitely grateful.
Xiao Wen, 50~59 year old female. Ask Date: 2022/04/22
Dr. Chen Ronghong reply Surgery
Hello, Xiaowen.
Based on your description, it seems that your tumor has responded very well to neoadjuvant chemotherapy, achieving "complete remission." In this situation, the resected tissue shows no cancer cells under the microscope, which is why the doctor would tell you that the cancer cells are dead.
However, is there a possibility of cancer cells existing outside the resection margins? Yes, there is still a possibility.
At this point, consideration should be given to whether to proceed with adjuvant chemotherapy or radiation therapy.
If there is complete remission, according to international guidelines, adjuvant chemotherapy may not be necessary.
Postoperative radiation therapy can reduce the risk of local recurrence.
As for local intensification, it is only required for high-risk patients (such as those under 50 years old or with poorly differentiated cancer cells).
Since I cannot see your pathology report, I recommend discussing with a radiation oncologist whether it is necessary.
Reply Date: 2022/04/22
More Info
Understanding pathology reports, especially in the context of cancer treatment, can be quite complex. In your case, the pathology report indicates that after undergoing eight cycles of chemotherapy for triple-negative breast cancer, the tumor was no longer detectable, and the report stated that "cancer cells are dead." This is a significant finding and can be interpreted in several ways.
1. What does it mean when the report states "cancer cells are dead"?
When a pathology report indicates that cancer cells are dead, it typically means that the chemotherapy was effective in eliminating the cancer cells in the tissue that was removed during surgery. In your case, since the ultrasound did not detect the tumor after the sixth cycle of chemotherapy, and the pathology report confirmed the absence of viable cancer cells, it suggests that the treatment was successful in achieving a complete pathological response (pCR). This is a favorable outcome, indicating that the primary tumor has been effectively eradicated.
However, it is essential to understand that while the primary tumor may no longer be present, there is still a possibility of residual microscopic disease elsewhere in the body. This is particularly relevant in cases of aggressive cancers like triple-negative breast cancer, which can have a higher risk of recurrence. The concern about cancer cells adhering to the skin or other tissues is valid; however, the pathology report focuses on the tissue that was surgically removed. If there were any concerns about skin involvement or other areas, additional imaging or biopsies would typically be performed.
2. Is further treatment necessary after a complete pathological response?
After achieving a complete pathological response, the decision regarding further treatment, such as radiation therapy or additional chemotherapy, depends on several factors, including the tumor's characteristics, the patient's overall health, and the potential risk of recurrence. In your case, you mentioned that you underwent 16 sessions of radiation therapy. Radiation is often recommended after surgery to reduce the risk of local recurrence, especially in breast cancer.
Regarding the suggestion of additional chemotherapy (the four extra cycles), this is typically considered for patients at higher risk of recurrence. Factors that might influence this decision include the tumor's size, grade, lymph node involvement, and the patient's age. Since your pathology report indicated no lymph node involvement and a complete response, your oncologist may have determined that the risk of recurrence is low enough that additional chemotherapy may not be necessary. However, if there are concerns about the aggressiveness of the cancer or if you have other risk factors, your oncologist might recommend further treatment.
In conclusion, while the pathology report is promising, it is crucial to maintain regular follow-ups and discussions with your healthcare team. They can provide personalized recommendations based on your specific situation and the latest clinical guidelines. Always feel free to ask your oncologist about any concerns you have regarding your treatment plan, as they can offer the most accurate advice tailored to your needs.
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