Schizophrenia
Hello Doctor: I am a patient with schizophrenia and have previously taken Seroquel—100 mg in the morning and 100 mg at night; Zyprexa 5 mg at bedtime; and Risperdal 2 mg at night, but I couldn't get up in the morning and didn't sleep at noon, whereas I used to take a nap at noon and lived a normal life.
Ever since I started taking psychiatric medications, my situation has changed.
I have also taken Geodon (80 mg daily) and Solian (400 mg daily), which caused vomiting.
However, I was able to get up around 7 AM.
I am very distressed.
Are there any other medications besides Seroquel, Solian, Geodon, Zyprexa, and Risperdal that I can switch to for schizophrenia? I have tried Seroquel at 100 mg daily and was able to get up earlier, but my psychiatrist said that 200 mg is the minimum dose.
Is it possible to reduce the dose further from 100 mg of Seroquel daily? What medications and dosages do most patients with schizophrenia use to maintain a normal daily routine? Could you provide me with some references? Thank you.
Chen, 20~29 year old female. Ask Date: 2003/11/19
Dr. Chen Guangpeng reply Psychiatry
Dear patient,
The response to medication can vary greatly among individuals, and what works for others may not necessarily serve as a sufficient reference for you.
Based on your extensive medication experience, I can draw at least two conclusions: first, you have a good attending physician who is willing to patiently allow you to try all the effective medications available, which is commendable; second, some patients may have the experience of frequently seeking medical advice or constantly changing medications due to impatience or poor communication with their physician, which prevents them from allowing the medication to take effect or adjusting to side effects—this is truly unfortunate.
The only golden rule is that, when circumstances allow, adhering to the principle of "start low, go slow" can minimize side effects, and over time, the medication's efficacy can be fully realized.
Upon receiving your inquiry again, I sense that you have indeed encountered many issues during your treatment process that require ongoing attention, discussion, and adjustment.
These can best be addressed through communication with your attending physician—there's no need to seek distant solutions.
Wishing you all the best.
Reply Date: 2003/11/19
More Info
When it comes to treating schizophrenia, finding the right medication and dosage can be a complex and individualized process. It is essential to understand that each patient may respond differently to various medications, and what works for one person may not work for another. Your experience with medications like Seroquel, Zyprexa, Risperdal, Geodon, and Solian highlights the challenges many patients face in managing their symptoms while minimizing side effects.
First, let's discuss the medications you've mentioned. Seroquel (quetiapine) is an atypical antipsychotic that can be effective in treating schizophrenia but may cause sedation, especially at higher doses. Zyprexa (olanzapine) is another atypical antipsychotic known for its efficacy but can also lead to weight gain and sedation. Risperdal (risperidone) is often used for its antipsychotic properties but may cause side effects like drowsiness and metabolic changes. Geodon (ziprasidone) and Solian (amisulpride) are also options, but as you've experienced, they can come with their own set of challenges, including gastrointestinal issues.
Regarding your question about alternative medications, there are several other atypical antipsychotics that you might consider discussing with your doctor. These include:
1. Lurasidone (Latuda): This medication is often well-tolerated and has a lower risk of sedation compared to some other antipsychotics. It may be beneficial for patients who experience significant drowsiness with other medications.
2. Aripiprazole (Abilify): This medication is known for its activating properties, which may help with morning wakefulness. It has a different mechanism of action compared to other antipsychotics and might be worth exploring.
3. Paliperidone (Invega): This is an active metabolite of Risperdal and may have a different side effect profile. It is available in extended-release formulations, which can be convenient.
4. Clozapine (Clozaril): While typically reserved for treatment-resistant schizophrenia due to its potential side effects, it can be very effective for some patients. Regular monitoring is required due to the risk of agranulocytosis (a decrease in white blood cells).
As for dosage adjustments, it is crucial to follow your psychiatrist's guidance. While you felt better on a lower dose of Seroquel, your doctor may have reasons for recommending a higher minimum dose based on clinical guidelines and your specific situation. It's essential to have an open dialogue with your healthcare provider about your experiences, side effects, and any concerns you have regarding your treatment plan.
In terms of what most patients use, there is no one-size-fits-all answer. Many patients find success with a combination of medications tailored to their symptoms and side effects. The goal is to achieve a balance where the medication effectively manages symptoms without causing intolerable side effects.
Additionally, consider discussing non-pharmacological interventions with your healthcare provider. Psychotherapy, cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), and support groups can be beneficial adjuncts to medication, helping to improve overall functioning and quality of life.
Finally, remember that managing schizophrenia is often a long-term process that requires patience and collaboration with your healthcare team. Regular follow-ups and adjustments to your treatment plan are vital to finding the most effective and tolerable regimen for you. Always consult your psychiatrist before making any changes to your medication or dosage.
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