Far Out in Orthopedic Context: Insights on Lumbar Issues - Orthopedics

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Hello, doctor.
May I ask what "Far out" means? The doctor said I have a combination of the 5th lumbar vertebra and Far out syndrome.
He mentioned that there is a crack (on the left side) in the bone adjacent to my 5th lumbar vertebra.
Some doctors say it is a spinal defect, while others say it is not.
Additionally, the skin on both sides of my lower back at the 5th lumbar vertebra has noticeable indentations, and I experience pain there every day.
Sometimes my legs feel numb, and many doctors have said there is nothing they can do.
I found similar symptoms online, but they only appear in pediatric neurosurgery literature, and it seems to be called a "hidden spinal defect." Is this condition not recognized in general orthopedics? Can I apply for exemption from military service or request an alternative service position? Is this a congenital spinal abnormality? Are there many people with my condition, and is there a way to treat it? It really hurts.
Thank you.

Xiao Xian, 20~29 year old female. Ask Date: 2004/07/30

Dr. Shi Qiming reply Orthopedics


Dear Xiaoxian Jun,
Based on your description, it seems to refer to the fifth lumbar vertebra undergoing sacralization combined with spina bifida.
Generally, this condition is not considered very severe.
However, if there are significant neurological symptoms, further detailed examinations are necessary.
This type of spinal malformation requires evaluation to determine if it meets the criteria for military service exemption.
Sincerely,
Dr.
Wang Zikang
Director of Orthopedics, Hsinchu Hospital, Department of Health, Executive Yuan

Reply Date: 2004/07/30

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Understanding the term "far out" in the context of orthopedic issues, particularly concerning your lumbar spine, can be quite complex. In orthopedic terminology, "far out" often refers to a condition where there is a significant displacement or abnormality in the vertebrae or surrounding structures. In your case, it seems to be associated with your L5 vertebra, which is the last lumbar vertebra before the sacrum.

From your description, it appears that you have been diagnosed with a condition involving the L5 vertebra that may include a defect or fissure on the left side. This could potentially be related to a condition known as spondylolysis, which is a defect in the bony encasement of the spinal canal, often occurring in the lower lumbar region. Spondylolysis can lead to instability of the vertebrae and may cause pain, particularly in the lower back, as well as neurological symptoms such as numbness or tingling in the legs, which you mentioned experiencing.

The presence of a "fissure" or "crack" in the vertebra can indeed be a source of chronic pain and discomfort. The skin indentation you noted on either side of your lower back could be indicative of muscle atrophy or changes in the underlying structures due to chronic pain or disuse. This is not uncommon in individuals who have had long-standing issues with their lumbar spine.

Regarding your concerns about the possibility of a "hidden spinal fracture," this condition, known as a "spinal dysraphism," can sometimes present similarly to what you are describing. However, it is essential to have a thorough evaluation by a specialist, preferably a spine surgeon or an orthopedic surgeon with expertise in spinal disorders, to determine the exact nature of your condition.

As for your question about military service exemption or alternative service due to your condition, this typically depends on the specific regulations and criteria set by your country's military service. In many cases, a documented medical condition that significantly impairs your ability to perform physical activities may qualify you for an exemption or alternative service. It would be best to consult with a medical professional who can provide documentation of your condition and its impact on your daily life.

In terms of treatment, options can vary widely based on the severity of your condition. Conservative management often includes physical therapy, pain management strategies, and possibly the use of braces to stabilize the spine. In cases where conservative treatment fails, surgical options may be considered, such as spinal fusion or decompression surgery, depending on the specific diagnosis.

It's important to remember that you are not alone in experiencing these types of issues; many individuals face similar challenges with lumbar spine conditions. The key is to seek out a comprehensive evaluation and a treatment plan tailored to your specific needs. Engaging with a multidisciplinary team, including orthopedic surgeons, physical therapists, and pain management specialists, can provide you with the best chance for recovery and improved quality of life.
In summary, your symptoms and the findings related to your L5 vertebra warrant further investigation and a tailored treatment approach. Don't hesitate to seek a second opinion if you feel uncertain about the recommendations you've received. Your health and well-being are paramount, and there are pathways to manage and potentially alleviate your pain.

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