Chest Pain and Discomfort: When to Seek Further Evaluation - Pulmonology

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Chest tightness and sharp pain in the upper back?


Hello, doctor.
For over a year, I have frequently experienced chest tightness, stabbing pain in my back, and difficulty breathing, especially during fatigue or significant weather changes.
Initially, I underwent a gastrointestinal examination at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital to check for gastroesophageal reflux disease, but the results were negative.
I also had an echocardiogram, chest X-ray, and electrocardiogram in the cardiology department, all of which showed no issues.
Six months ago (December 30, 2022), I had a blood test that revealed no major problems, except for an elevated Helicobacter pylori level (132).
In the cancer screening tests, my CEA was 0.93, NSE was 6.62, Cyfra 21-1 (non-small cell lung cancer) was 1.11, and CA72-4 was 8.51, which was slightly elevated.
However, upon returning to Chang Gung for a follow-up, the gastroscopy showed no Helicobacter pylori, and a self-paid breath test also confirmed the absence of Helicobacter pylori.
The doctor advised me not to worry about the CA72-4 level.
Is that true? I would like to ask: 1.
I had a chest X-ray in the cardiology department; is there a difference compared to a chest X-ray in the pulmonology department? Does a normal X-ray in cardiology imply that there are no issues in the pulmonology aspect as well? 2.
In a traditional Chinese medicine clinic, it was suggested that I have internal injuries related to the chest area, which Western medicine could not identify.
3.
Do I still need to see a pulmonologist for further examinations? 4.
Should I really disregard the elevated Helicobacter pylori and CA72-4 levels from the blood test?

Xingchen, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2006/06/24

Dr. Li Shiwei reply Pulmonology


Hello: 1.
The X-ray is the same, but the focus of the thoracic physician and the cardiologist differs; however, this does not mean that there are no issues in the thoracic region.
2.
It cannot be determined.
3.
Consider pulmonary function and lateral X-ray.
5.
It is not necessary to pay attention to it, as it is a screening item.
Sincerely, Dr.
Zhuang Ziyi, Internal Medicine.

Reply Date: 2006/06/24

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When it comes to understanding chest pain and discomfort, it's crucial to recognize the various potential causes and when to seek further evaluation. Based on your description, it seems you've already undergone a comprehensive evaluation, including cardiac ultrasound, chest X-ray, and electrocardiogram (ECG), which did not reveal any significant issues. However, you continue to experience symptoms such as chest tightness, stabbing pain in the back, and difficulty breathing, particularly during fatigue or significant weather changes.

Understanding Your Symptoms
1. Chest Pain and Discomfort: Chest pain can arise from various sources, including cardiac, gastrointestinal, musculoskeletal, and psychological factors. Given that your cardiac evaluations have returned normal, it may be beneficial to explore other potential causes.

2. Gastrointestinal Factors: You mentioned having undergone tests for gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD) and found no evidence of acid reflux. However, it's worth noting that gastrointestinal issues can sometimes present as chest pain. Conditions such as esophageal spasms or even gastritis could lead to similar symptoms.

3. Musculoskeletal Issues: Chest pain can also stem from musculoskeletal problems, such as costochondritis or muscle strain. These conditions may not show up on imaging studies but can cause significant discomfort.

4. Psychological Factors: Anxiety and stress can manifest physically, leading to symptoms like chest tightness and difficulty breathing. If you find that your symptoms worsen during stressful times, this could be a contributing factor.


Addressing Your Concerns
1. Chest X-ray Differences: The chest X-ray performed in the cardiology department primarily focuses on the heart and its surrounding structures. While it can provide some information about lung conditions, a chest X-ray done in a pulmonology (chest) department may include additional views or considerations specific to lung pathology. If you have ongoing symptoms, it may be worthwhile to consult a pulmonologist for further evaluation.

2. Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) Perspectives: The mention of "八卦受內傷" (internal injury from the Eight Trigrams) reflects a traditional Chinese medicine perspective, which may not align with Western medical diagnoses. While TCM can offer valuable insights and treatment options, it's essential to ensure that any underlying medical conditions are adequately addressed through conventional medicine.

3. Further Evaluation: If your symptoms persist or worsen, seeking further evaluation from a pulmonologist or a gastroenterologist could be beneficial. They may recommend additional tests, such as a CT scan of the chest or esophageal motility studies, to rule out other conditions.

4. Regarding Helicobacter pylori and CA72-4 Levels: The presence of Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) can lead to gastritis and peptic ulcers, which may cause discomfort. If follow-up tests have shown no H. pylori infection, this is reassuring. As for the CA72-4 level, while slightly elevated, it is not definitive for cancer and can be influenced by various benign conditions. It's essential to discuss these results with your healthcare provider to determine if further monitoring or investigation is warranted.


Conclusion
In summary, while your cardiac evaluations have not indicated any significant issues, your ongoing symptoms warrant further exploration. It may be beneficial to consult with a pulmonologist or gastroenterologist to rule out other potential causes. Additionally, consider discussing your symptoms with a mental health professional, as anxiety can significantly impact physical health. Remember, it's essential to advocate for your health and seek further evaluation if you feel your concerns are not being adequately addressed. Your well-being is paramount, and understanding the root cause of your symptoms is the first step toward effective management.

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