Post-operative complications of HIVD are unhelpful?
Hello Doctor: In December 2005, I experienced pain and numbness below my right buttock due to a herniated intervertebral disc (HIVD).
Under the diagnosis of Dr.
Chiu from the neurosurgery department at Chi Mei Medical Center in Tainan, I underwent surgery at the L3-L4 level.
After the surgery and a three-week recovery at home, I felt well enough to return to work.
However, after working for just one week, I began experiencing severe nerve pain below my thigh, which was so intense that even minor movements were painful.
I had to take an ambulance back to Chi Mei for treatment.
Dr.
Chiu advised hospitalization for observation.
After two weeks with little improvement, I underwent another MRI, and he suggested cleaning up the area around the L3-L4 level.
After discharge, I followed up with rehabilitation and physical therapy, which improved my condition.
I could walk, but my right foot was turned outward while walking.
Unfortunately, less than a month after the second surgery, the pain returned, and I could not even lift my thigh.
During my follow-up visit, another MRI was performed, but Dr.
Chiu said there were no abnormalities and advised rest and rehabilitation.
However, the physical therapy caused me so much pain that I could not continue.
Dr.
Chiu mentioned he had never seen a patient with such symptoms but worked hard to find the cause, conducting nerve conduction studies and rheumatological tests, all of which returned normal results.
Later, I consulted Dr.
Huang Bo-Chang in orthopedics, who performed a CT scan with contrast injection but found no results.
From January 2006, after my second surgery until the end of April, I struggled with sleep.
Whenever I lay down, my right leg felt paralyzed, and I could not move it at all, not even perform basic leg movements.
I also experienced severe muscle atrophy and accompanying nerve pain.
At the end of April, I visited Dr.
Huang Hsu-Lin at Kaohsiung Medical University’s neurosurgery department.
After reviewing the reports from Chi Mei Medical Center, he ordered another MRI and noted that there was degeneration of the cartilage at either the L3-L4 or L4-L5 level, recommending a surgical procedure involving screws.
Since I did not meet the criteria for health insurance and labor insurance, I had to pay out of pocket.
After the surgery, I told my mother that my nerves were bruised and swollen, but my condition improved, allowing me to put weight on my leg and alleviating some pain.
I thought that with diligent rehabilitation and medication, I would recover.
However, shortly after returning home, I began experiencing intermittent pain again.
Although the nerve pain had subsided, I still had pain in my knee (at the hip joint and thigh connection) and buttock.
I am now back at Chi Mei Medical Center, consulting with Dr.
Kao Chen-Hsing.
He reviewed my situation and advised me to first see orthopedic surgeon Dr.
Qin for an examination.
If there are no issues with my hip joint, I should return to him.
The orthopedic department conducted a bone examination to assess wear and tear, but the report will not be available until July 13.
I am currently in pain again, and my lower back has also started to ache.
What should I do?
Dr.
Wang, I have several questions:
1.
Can incorrect posture due to pain lead to degeneration of the hip joint and knee?
2.
The orthopedic department performed an MRI on my knee but found no significant abnormalities; why can I sometimes not even complete a bending motion?
3.
Can I request a steroid injection at the pain points? (Why did the injections in my inner thigh and knee not help?)
4.
Both the doctor and the physical therapist said that as long as I can tolerate the pain during rehabilitation, my foot pain should not last long, and I would gradually regain lost muscle and nerve function.
However, my pain episodes last a long time; is this normal?
5.
My walking posture causes my right foot to turn outward, making me appear limping, and I cannot walk for long.
If I walk today, I will be in pain for several days.
Sometimes even painkillers do not help.
Could there be other underlying issues?
6.
Dr.
Huang mentioned that after the screw surgery, I could stop wearing the brace after a little over a month, but now my lower back hurts and aches.
Is this pain related to not wearing the brace? Could there be other issues with my back?
7.
What foods can help promote muscle growth and accelerate nerve recovery? If I rely on medication to control pain long-term, will it become a burden on my body?
8.
As a 30-year-old born in 1985, should I take supplements like glucosamine to protect my joints?
9.
Can the hip joint wear down due to long-term poor posture, or does the nerve damage from the HIVD cause changes in the hip joint?
10.
Are there any precautions or considerations I should be aware of?
I apologize for having so many questions.
I often think of things to ask during my visits but forget when I see the doctor.
Could you please help me with answers and advice? I have been unable to work for over seven months due to this condition and have spent nearly NT$200,000 out of pocket on medical expenses.
(In December 2005, I initially injured my back after falling from an A-frame ladder at work.
Although I did not feel much pain at the time, I visited a nearby clinic for pain relief injections.
After a few days, I felt better, but sneezing caused my leg to become numb and painful.
I thought seeing a doctor would resolve the issue and did not consider using labor insurance for treatment.
After two surgeries, when I applied for labor insurance benefits, they said I had not provided the doctor with a detailed account of my condition and did not use the labor insurance hospitalization form, so they denied my claim.
They also stated that the reports from Chi Mei indicated degeneration at the L3-L4 and L4-L5 levels, which was not covered.
However, both the neurology and orthopedic departments did not mention this issue.)
Dr.
Wang, can an MRI detect bone wear? If so, why have none of the doctors I consulted informed me of this condition? I have asked them, and they only mention the HIVD.
What should I do? Dr.
Wang, could you please provide me with your valuable advice? Thank you.
Xiao Yuan, 30~39 year old female. Ask Date: 2006/07/10
Dr. Wang Shouji reply Orthopedics
Xiao Yuan: Your condition is indeed somewhat complex.
Here is my response: 1.
Given your age, it is unlikely to have severe hip and knee joint degeneration, unless there has been a history of injury, steroid use, or excessive alcohol consumption leading to skeletal joint issues.
2.
Abnormal knee flexion is not necessarily caused by internal problems within the knee joint.
3.
Injections of anti-inflammatory medications are often used, but frequent administration is generally not recommended.
4.
If the condition is more severe and muscle and joint stiffness has developed, rehabilitation may cause some pain; it is advisable to soak in warm water to relax the soft tissues.
5.
Without a proper assessment and examination, it is impossible to determine if there are other underlying issues.
6.
A back brace is generally intended to provide support for the back; not wearing it initially may lead to back pain due to muscle weakness from surgery and protection, which is not surprising.
Most patients will recover with rehabilitation and muscle training.
7.
A balanced diet, adequate protein intake, and vitamin B supplementation while avoiding smoking and alcohol are recommended.
8.
Glucosamine can be considered as a joint supplement, but do not expect it to resolve your issues quickly.
9.
Given your age, the likelihood of needing surgery for herniated intervertebral disc (HIVD) is low, and while it is unrelated to the hip joint, symptoms can sometimes be confusing.
10.
Same as above.
Finally, I wish you a speedy recovery.
Reply Date: 2006/07/10
More Info
Post-surgery complications after a herniated intervertebral disc (HIVD) can be quite challenging, as evidenced by your detailed account of your journey. It’s important to understand that recovery from such surgeries can be complex, and various factors can contribute to ongoing pain and discomfort. Let’s address your concerns systematically.
1. Pain and Posture: Yes, improper posture can lead to additional strain on the hips and knees, potentially causing or exacerbating pain in these areas. After surgery, it’s crucial to maintain proper alignment and posture to avoid undue stress on the spine and lower extremities. Engaging in physical therapy can help you learn proper body mechanics and strengthen the muscles that support your spine and joints.
2. MRI Results and Pain: An MRI can sometimes miss subtle changes or conditions that may not be visible, especially if the pain is related to soft tissue or nerve issues rather than bony structures. If you’re experiencing pain with certain movements, it could be due to muscle imbalances, nerve irritation, or even referred pain from the spine. It’s essential to communicate these symptoms to your healthcare provider so they can consider further diagnostic options or adjustments to your treatment plan.
3. Corticosteroid Injections: Corticosteroid injections can be beneficial for localized pain relief, but their effectiveness can vary based on the injection site and the underlying cause of the pain. If injections in certain areas haven’t provided relief, it may be worth discussing alternative sites or treatment options with your physician.
4. Rehabilitation and Pain Management: It’s common for rehabilitation to be uncomfortable, especially when you’re working to regain strength and mobility. However, if the pain is severe and prolonged, it’s essential to discuss this with your physical therapist or physician. They may need to adjust your rehabilitation program or explore other pain management strategies.
5. Gait and Mobility Issues: A gait that appears limping or altered can be a result of pain avoidance strategies. If you’re experiencing significant discomfort while walking, it’s crucial to address this with your healthcare provider. They may recommend gait training or further evaluation to identify any underlying issues.
6. Post-operative Pain: It’s not uncommon to experience new or different pain after surgery, especially as you transition from wearing supportive devices like braces. Your back pain may be related to changes in your activity level or muscle weakness. It’s essential to follow up with your surgeon or a physical therapist to assess your recovery and make necessary adjustments.
7. Nutrition for Recovery: A balanced diet rich in protein, vitamins, and minerals is essential for muscle recovery and nerve health. Foods high in omega-3 fatty acids, antioxidants, and anti-inflammatory properties can be beneficial. Long-term reliance on pain medications can lead to side effects, so it’s crucial to discuss any concerns with your physician.
8. Joint Protection: At 30 years old, maintaining joint health is important. While supplements like glucosamine can be beneficial for some, it’s best to consult with your healthcare provider before starting any new regimen.
9. Long-term Effects of Poor Posture: Chronic poor posture can lead to joint wear and tear over time. It’s essential to address any postural issues early to prevent further complications.
10. Monitoring and Follow-up: Regular follow-ups with your healthcare providers are crucial. If you feel that your concerns are not being addressed, seeking a second opinion can provide additional insights and treatment options.
In summary, your journey post-HIVD surgery has been fraught with challenges, but understanding the multifaceted nature of pain and recovery can empower you to seek the appropriate care. Open communication with your healthcare team, adherence to rehabilitation protocols, and attention to nutrition and posture are key components of your recovery. Don’t hesitate to advocate for yourself and seek further evaluations if your symptoms persist or worsen.
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