Neurogenic Bladder After L4-L5 Disc Surgery: What to Do? - Neurosurgery

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I have been unable to urinate on my own since my surgery for L4 and L5 disc herniation?


In September 2010, I went to a hospital in Changhua due to foot pain.
After examination, the doctor diagnosed me with a herniated disc at the L4 and L5 vertebrae and recommended surgery.
The procedure involved removing the herniated disc material, implanting a cage, and securing it with screws for stabilization.
After the surgery, I experienced urinary retention and it has been nearly five months since then.
The doctor informed me that I have a neurogenic bladder.
My current symptoms include: (inability to urinate independently, requiring intermittent catheterization), (occasional difficulty with bowel movements, needing laxatives), (impotence), and (slight anal incontinence).
It has been almost five months since the surgery, and my condition has not improved.
I feel very helpless.
I would like to understand my current situation better.
Can I know which nerves might be damaged? Is there a possibility of recovery? I plan to go to the hospital for further examination, but which specialty should I start with?

A-Liang, 60~69 year old female. Ask Date: 2011/01/16

Dr. Ding Xianwei reply Neurosurgery


Due to the incomplete nature of your information, I can only provide suggestions based on past experiences and theoretical knowledge.
Generally speaking, if you have a herniated disc, internal fixation surgery is not typically required, so your condition may not solely be a herniated disc.
Unexplained urinary incontinence or difficulties can be associated with similar situations we have encountered in past surgeries.
Typically, the nerves that manage bowel and bladder function are very delicate, and prolonged nerve compression may lead to more pronounced neurological symptoms after decompression.
Additionally, based on experience, many patients also have diabetes, which could contribute to diabetic neuropathy.
Since the information you provided is not complete, and appropriate advice cannot be given online, it is recommended that you discuss your situation in detail with your attending physician to gain a better understanding.
I also suggest seeking a second opinion from another spine specialist nearby.

Reply Date: 2011/01/16

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Neurogenic bladder is a condition that arises when there is a disruption in the nerve signals that control the bladder, often resulting from spinal cord injuries, neurological diseases, or surgical interventions such as the one you experienced with your L4-L5 disc surgery. In your case, the inability to urinate independently and the need for self-catheterization indicate that the nerve pathways responsible for bladder control have been affected.

After your surgery, it is not uncommon for patients to experience complications, including neurogenic bladder. This can occur due to direct nerve damage during surgery, inflammation, or scarring that affects the surrounding nerves. The symptoms you describe, such as difficulty urinating, bowel irregularities, erectile dysfunction, and anal sphincter laxity, suggest that multiple nerve pathways may be involved, particularly those that control pelvic function.

To address your concerns, it is essential to understand the potential for recovery and the steps you can take to manage your symptoms. Here are some key points to consider:
1. Assessment of Nerve Damage: It is crucial to identify which specific nerves are affected. This can be done through a combination of clinical evaluation and diagnostic tests such as urodynamic studies, which assess how well the bladder and urethra are functioning. Additionally, nerve conduction studies and electromyography (EMG) can provide insights into the integrity of the nerves involved in bladder control.

2. Consultation with Specialists: Given the complexity of your symptoms, it is advisable to consult with a multidisciplinary team. This may include a urologist specializing in neurogenic bladder, a neurologist, and a rehabilitation specialist. Each of these professionals can provide valuable insights and treatment options tailored to your specific needs.

3. Treatment Options: Management of neurogenic bladder may include:
- Catheterization: As you are currently doing, self-catheterization is often necessary to ensure bladder emptying and prevent complications such as urinary tract infections.

- Medications: Depending on your symptoms, medications may be prescribed to help manage bladder function. Anticholinergics can help reduce bladder spasms, while other medications may assist with urinary retention.

- Physical Therapy: Pelvic floor physical therapy can be beneficial in strengthening the muscles involved in bladder control and improving overall pelvic function.

- Surgical Interventions: In some cases, surgical options may be considered to improve bladder function, such as bladder augmentation or the placement of a sacral nerve stimulator.

4. Prognosis: The potential for recovery from neurogenic bladder varies widely among individuals. Factors influencing recovery include the extent of nerve damage, the duration of symptoms, and the effectiveness of rehabilitation efforts. Some patients experience significant improvement over time, while others may require ongoing management.

5. Follow-Up Care: Regular follow-up appointments with your healthcare team are essential to monitor your progress and adjust treatment plans as needed. Keeping an open line of communication with your doctors will help ensure that you receive the best possible care.

In conclusion, while the diagnosis of neurogenic bladder can be daunting, there are various management strategies available. It is crucial to work closely with your healthcare providers to develop a comprehensive treatment plan that addresses your specific symptoms and concerns. With appropriate care and support, many individuals with neurogenic bladder can lead fulfilling lives despite their challenges.

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