Obsessive Thoughts or Delusions? Your Mental Health - Psychiatry

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Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) or Delusions?


Hello, doctor.
I don't know when it started, but after reading about delusional disorders and hearing others talk about many symptoms of schizophrenia, I've been feeling strange.
For example, I found information about delusions of reference, and I started to wonder if the television, music, and radio are talking about me.
However, I also argue with myself, knowing that this isn't true.
Sometimes, when I see others whispering or laughing, I briefly think they might be discussing my thoughts, but I tell myself that's not the case.
Still, those thoughts and ideas flash through my mind, making me very uncomfortable.
Now, I find myself making many associations, connecting various related things to myself.
Does this mean I have a delusional disorder? However, I've seen two doctors who both said I have obsessive thinking, so I'm still confused.
If it is obsessive thinking, why does it feel so much like delusional thinking?

Niming, 20~29 year old female. Ask Date: 2016/06/14

Dr. Qiu Junda reply Psychiatry


Hello: The discussion of symptoms can be quite complex and requires some time to clarify.
Here, I will briefly mention that delusions refer to false beliefs that are firmly held despite evidence to the contrary.
Your doubts and counterarguments may not reach the level of delusions, but rather may be at the level of intrusive thoughts or ideas.
Whether this constitutes obsessive thinking depends on the intensity and frequency of these thoughts.
Additionally, since it has already caused distress, it would be advisable to seek solutions from a physician during your consultation for prompt improvement.

Reply Date: 2016/06/14

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It sounds like you are experiencing a significant amount of distress related to your thoughts and perceptions, which can be quite overwhelming. The feelings you describe, such as believing that external stimuli (like television, music, or conversations) are somehow related to you, can indeed be confusing and troubling. It’s important to understand the distinction between obsessive thoughts and delusions, as well as how they can manifest in mental health conditions.

Obsessive thoughts are typically characterized by persistent, unwanted thoughts that cause anxiety or distress. These thoughts often lead to compulsive behaviors as a way to alleviate the discomfort associated with them. For example, if you have an obsessive thought that something bad will happen unless you perform a specific action, you may feel compelled to engage in that action repeatedly. This is commonly seen in Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

On the other hand, delusions are fixed beliefs that are not based in reality and are resistant to reasoning or contrary evidence. Delusions can occur in various mental health disorders, including schizophrenia and delusional disorder. For instance, if someone believes that they are being persecuted or that they have special powers, this belief persists despite clear evidence to the contrary.

From what you’ve described, it seems that you are experiencing intrusive thoughts that may feel delusional in nature, but you also have the awareness that these thoughts are not based in reality. This self-awareness is crucial and suggests that you may be dealing with obsessive thoughts rather than full-blown delusions. The fact that you can recognize that these thoughts are not true is a key differentiator.

Your experience of feeling uncomfortable when you perceive others whispering or laughing could be a manifestation of social anxiety or paranoia, which can sometimes accompany obsessive thinking. It’s also possible that your mind is making connections between unrelated events, which can happen when someone is feeling anxious or overwhelmed.

It’s understandable to feel confused when you receive different diagnoses from healthcare professionals. Mental health conditions can be complex, and symptoms often overlap. It’s essential to communicate openly with your healthcare providers about your experiences, including how these thoughts affect your daily life and emotional well-being. They can help you navigate these feelings and determine the most appropriate treatment options.

Cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) is often effective for managing obsessive thoughts. This therapeutic approach helps individuals identify and challenge distorted thinking patterns and develop healthier coping strategies. Mindfulness practices can also be beneficial, as they encourage individuals to observe their thoughts without judgment and reduce the power those thoughts have over them.

If you find that your thoughts are becoming increasingly distressing or disruptive, it may be worthwhile to seek a second opinion or further evaluation from a mental health professional. They can provide a comprehensive assessment and help you understand your symptoms better.

In summary, while it’s natural to feel concerned about your mental health, it’s important to remember that you are not alone in this experience. Many people struggle with similar thoughts and feelings, and there are effective treatments available. Seeking help is a positive step toward understanding and managing your mental health.

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