Risk of breast cancer recurrence
Hello Dr.
Chen, I would like to inquire about the risk of cancer recurrence related to the IHC4 score.
The pathology report states: IDC, Grade 1, pT1cN0M0, ER (80%), PR (50%), Her-2 (score 1+), Ki-67 5% (<5%).
The IHC4 score is -23.675.
I am concerned because the IHC4 data I calculated using the numbers from the website you previously referenced differs from the score provided by the hospital.
I am unsure where the discrepancy lies.
Did the hospital make an error in the calculation? I am also worried that this might affect my subsequent treatment.
Thank you.
Wendy, 50~59 year old female. Ask Date: 2023/06/28
Dr. Chen Sirong reply Oncology
Wendy / 54 years old / Female
Hello, I have calculated my IHC4 score as -23.675, which matches the data provided by your doctor.
You made an error in your calculation; the reason is that Her-2 (score 1+) is considered negative, so you should input 0 for that calculation.
Wishing you a smooth treatment.
Taoyuan Hospital, Chen Si-Rong.
Reply Date: 2023/06/28
More Info
The IHC4 score is a valuable tool in assessing the risk of breast cancer recurrence, particularly in hormone receptor-positive invasive breast cancer. It combines the results of immunohistochemical (IHC) tests for estrogen receptor (ER), progesterone receptor (PR), human epidermal growth factor receptor 2 (HER2), and Ki-67, a marker of cell proliferation. The IHC4 score helps to stratify patients into different risk categories, guiding treatment decisions and follow-up strategies.
In your case, the provided pathology results indicate the following:
- Invasive Ductal Carcinoma (IDC)
- Grade 1
- pT1cN0M0 (indicating a small tumor with no lymph node involvement or distant metastasis)
- ER positive (80%)
- PR positive (50%)
- HER2 negative (score 1+)
- Ki-67 at 5%
The IHC4 score of -23.675 suggests a low risk of recurrence, which aligns with the characteristics of your tumor. Generally, a lower IHC4 score indicates a better prognosis and a lower likelihood of recurrence. However, discrepancies in the IHC4 score calculations can arise from variations in the interpretation of the IHC results or the specific formulas used to calculate the score.
It's important to note that the HER2 score of 1+ is considered negative in most clinical contexts, which means that it does not typically warrant HER2-targeted therapies like trastuzumab (Herceptin). This is crucial because HER2 positivity can significantly influence treatment options and prognosis.
If you have calculated a different IHC4 score using online tools or resources, it may be due to differences in the input values or the formulas used. For instance, the HER2 score should be entered as 0 for IHC4 calculations if it is 1+, as this indicates a lack of significant HER2 overexpression. Therefore, it is advisable to confirm the input values with your healthcare provider to ensure accuracy.
Regarding your concerns about the potential errors in the hospital's calculations or treatment plans, it is essential to have open communication with your oncologist. They can clarify the rationale behind your treatment plan based on the IHC4 score and other clinical factors. If you feel uncertain or anxious about your treatment, consider seeking a second opinion from another oncologist or a breast cancer specialist. This can provide you with additional insights and reassurance.
In summary, the IHC4 score is a critical component in evaluating breast cancer recurrence risk. Your score of -23.675 suggests a favorable prognosis, but it is essential to ensure that all data inputs are accurate and consistent. Open dialogue with your healthcare team will help address any concerns and guide your treatment decisions moving forward. Remember, breast cancer treatment is highly individualized, and your medical team is best equipped to tailor a plan that suits your specific situation.
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