Depression and ADHD: Insights from a Patient's Journey - Psychiatry

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Depression and ADHD-related issues?


Hello Dr.
Li, I would like to ask for your help in reviewing my information below:
This is some data from my childhood.
The doctor only mentioned that I had significant attention deficit and noted that my math skills were decent.
I don't quite understand what this means.
There are many patients at Taipei City Hospital:
IQ in 2007: VIQ=107, Coding=7, Delay Task: > Corr.=41N > Resp.
=141AB > E.R.=.29AB > ER1=.22AB, R2=23AB, ER3=.47B, ER4=.29AB.

The recent psychological evaluation results are as follows.
My current diagnosis codes are F32.2 (this F32.2 was diagnosed during a recent follow-up visit just a few days ago, and this situation emerged at the end of June this year) and F90.0.

DATE OF EVALUATION: 2023/06/
AGE: 23
EDUCATION: University
INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT
TEST ADMINISTERED: WAIS-IV (short-form)
RESULTS: WAIS-IV Estimated Full Scale IQ (FSIQ) = 72
I would like to ask:
1.
Am I really that much less intelligent now compared to my childhood? During my childhood (elementary to junior high), when I was unable to protect myself, I experienced long-term verbal and psychological anxiety, oppression, and stress.
Could this have severely impaired my IQ?
2.
I was recently diagnosed with depression.
Could this lead to a decrease in IQ? What should I do now? I really don’t know what to do...
the results are quite disheartening...

Current medications: Valdoxan, and Lichangning (which has not been very effective)...
Thank you for your response, doctor.

Niming, 20~29 year old female. Ask Date: 2023/08/01

Dr. Li Guanying reply Psychiatry


From your letter, it is clear that you are concerned about the pressures of your family members dealing with depression and ADHD.

1.
Facing an uncertain future, mental health disorders are common in modern society.
These are chronic conditions that require long-term treatment for recovery.

2.
Mental health disorders are chronic illnesses that have phases of exacerbation, remission, recovery, and relapse.
More than half of patients may experience a recurrence of symptoms even after they have remitted.
Due to individual differences in physiology, your friend's situation requires medical attention, and finding the appropriate medication will take time.

3.
Regarding medication treatment alone, each primary medication typically requires 4 to 6 weeks to assess its effectiveness.
It is advisable to note the duration and frequency of any persistent symptoms you may experience.

4.
In addition to medication and psychotherapy, repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation (rTMS) is a non-invasive treatment that does not require anesthesia, is highly safe, and does not necessitate hospitalization.
It can help improve anxiety and depressive symptoms.
Please encourage your family member to discuss cognitive abilities and IQ with their physician during follow-up visits.

Our clinic is open for consultations from Monday to Friday, both in the morning and afternoon.
I recommend considering a visit to have a physician personally assess your symptoms and collaboratively discuss the best decisions for you.

Wishing you mental and physical well-being.

Reply Date: 2023/08/01

More Info


Hello, thank you for sharing your journey and concerns regarding your mental health. It’s clear that you are facing significant challenges, and I commend you for seeking help and trying to understand your situation better. Let’s address your questions one by one.

1. Childhood IQ vs. Current Assessment: It’s important to recognize that IQ scores can fluctuate over time due to various factors, including environmental influences, educational opportunities, and mental health conditions. Your childhood IQ score of 107 indicates average intelligence, particularly in verbal tasks. However, your recent assessment showing a Full Scale IQ of 72 suggests a decline. This decline could be influenced by several factors, including the stress and anxiety you experienced during your formative years. Chronic stress can affect cognitive functions, including attention, memory, and problem-solving abilities. It’s crucial to understand that this does not define your worth or potential. Mental health issues, such as anxiety and depression, can significantly impact cognitive performance, leading to difficulties in concentration and memory, which may reflect in IQ testing.

2. Impact of Depression on Cognitive Function: Depression can indeed affect cognitive abilities, including attention, memory, and executive function. This is sometimes referred to as "depressive pseudodementia," where cognitive impairment is primarily due to the depressive state rather than a neurodegenerative process. The cognitive deficits associated with depression can improve with effective treatment, including psychotherapy and medication. It’s essential to address the underlying depression to potentially regain cognitive function.
3. Current Treatment and Next Steps: You mentioned that you are currently taking Valdoxan and another medication, but you feel that the latter is not effective. It’s crucial to communicate this to your healthcare provider. Medication effectiveness can vary from person to person, and it may take time to find the right combination that works for you. Additionally, consider discussing the possibility of incorporating psychotherapy, such as cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT), which has been shown to be effective in treating both depression and ADHD. Therapy can help you develop coping strategies, improve your self-esteem, and address any underlying issues related to your past experiences.

4. Understanding ADHD and Depression: ADHD (Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder) and depression often co-occur, and each can exacerbate the symptoms of the other. ADHD can lead to difficulties in academic and social settings, which may contribute to feelings of inadequacy and depression. Conversely, depression can impair attention and motivation, making it challenging to manage ADHD symptoms. It’s essential to have a comprehensive treatment plan that addresses both conditions.

5. Long-Term Outlook: While your current assessment results may seem discouraging, it’s important to remember that they do not determine your future. With appropriate treatment and support, many individuals experience significant improvements in their mental health and cognitive function. Engaging in supportive therapies, maintaining a healthy lifestyle, and building a strong support network can all contribute to recovery.

In conclusion, I encourage you to continue working closely with your healthcare provider to adjust your treatment plan as needed. It’s also beneficial to seek support from mental health professionals who can help you navigate these challenges. Remember, recovery is a journey, and it’s okay to seek help along the way. You are not alone in this, and there is hope for a brighter future.

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