Questions related to electromyography (EMG)?
Dr.
Pan, I am writing to inquire about some issues I have been experiencing.
Recently, I have been feeling extremely unwell, not related to the local injection question from our last correspondence, but rather due to persistent lower back pain and thigh pain that have not improved after my second surgery.
Under the guidance of my rehabilitation physician, I underwent MRI and electromyography (EMG) tests.
I would like to ask whether the results of the EMG can be influenced by the specific muscle areas tested, or if the L1-L2 nerve root pathology would not be detectable through the EMG examination.
Attached is the EMG report, which states: "Diagnosis: displacement of lumbar internal lumbosacral root lesions.
Motor NCV: Normal motor distal latencies, amplitude, and conduction velocities of the left peroneal and tibial nerves were noted.
Sensory NCV: Normal sensory latency and amplitude of the left sural nerve were noted.
F-Wave: The F-wave latencies of the left peroneal and tibial nerves were within normal limits.
H-reflex: The latencies of bilateral H-reflexes were within normal limits.
EMG: There were neuropathic polyphasic waves over the left quadriceps, tibialis anterior, and lumbar paraspinal muscles.
Conclusion: This NCV and EMG study indicated left L4-L5 radiculopathies."
Additionally, here is the link to the MRI images taken after my second surgery: http://www.wretch.cc/album/gush.
The reason for my inquiry is that the neurosurgeon who performed my surgery indicated that my symptoms are caused by issues at the L1-L2 level.
If rehabilitation does not improve my condition, I may need to undergo another surgery.
However, the EMG results suggest that the problem lies with the L4-L5 nerve roots.
I am truly uncertain about the source of my current lower back pain and the discomfort that radiates from my buttocks to just above my knees.
Thank you once again for your assistance, Dr.
Pan.
I sincerely appreciate it.
gush, 20~29 year old female. Ask Date: 2005/08/22
Dr. Pan Yingda reply Rehabilitation
The MRI shows issues at L1/2, L3/4, and L5/S1, while L4/5 appears to be fine.
Based on your symptoms, it seems that the problem is related to L1/2 (when you mention above the knee, you are referring to the front of the thigh, right? If it's the back of the thigh, then it relates to L5/S1).
As for the electromyography (EMG) and the sampled muscles, if you have previously had issues at L4/5, it would naturally show a positive result now, while sampling muscles from L1/2 can be challenging.
Additionally, apart from nerve compression, problems with muscles, ligaments, and joints can also cause similar referred pain.
My suggestion is to find a doctor who is familiar with the muscular and musculoskeletal system to guide you in doing some exercises.
About 80-90% of herniated intervertebral discs (HIVD) do not require surgery, and appropriate rehabilitation can lead to improvement.
Focus on doing some suitable exercises! Take care!
Reply Date: 2005/08/22
More Info
Understanding the results of an electromyography (EMG) test is crucial for diagnosing neuromuscular disorders, particularly when symptoms are present in specific areas of the body. In your case, the symptoms of lower back pain and thigh pain, along with the findings from your MRI and EMG, suggest a complex interaction between different spinal nerve roots.
Impact of Muscle Location on EMG Results
The location of the muscles tested during an EMG can significantly influence the results. EMG assesses the electrical activity of muscles and the conduction of nerves that control them. If the muscle being tested is innervated by a specific nerve root, any abnormalities in that nerve root can be detected through the EMG. For instance, if there is a problem with the L4-L5 nerve roots, the muscles innervated by these roots, such as the quadriceps and tibialis anterior, will show signs of neuropathy, as indicated by the presence of polyphasic waves in your EMG results.
In your report, the findings of neuropathic polyphasic waves in the left quadriceps and tibialis anterior muscles suggest that there is indeed an issue with the L4-L5 nerve roots. This aligns with the conclusion of left L4-L5 radiculopathy. However, it is also essential to note that symptoms can sometimes be referred from other areas of the spine, such as the L1-L2 region, which may not be directly assessed through the muscles tested in the EMG.
Understanding Radiculopathy and Symptoms
Radiculopathy occurs when a nerve root in the spine is compressed or irritated, leading to pain, weakness, or numbness along the path of the nerve. In your case, the left L4-L5 radiculopathy could explain the thigh pain and weakness, as these nerve roots are responsible for innervating the muscles in that region. However, if your symptoms are also suggesting involvement of the L1-L2 nerve roots, it is possible that there is a concurrent issue that may not have been captured in the EMG if the specific muscles innervated by those roots were not tested.
The Role of MRI in Diagnosis
The MRI results can provide additional context. If the MRI shows abnormalities at the L1-L2 level, such as disc herniation or spinal stenosis, this could explain your symptoms. It is not uncommon for patients to experience overlapping symptoms from different levels of the spine, especially if there are multiple areas of nerve root involvement.
Next Steps
Given the complexity of your symptoms and the findings from both the EMG and MRI, it is essential to have a thorough discussion with your healthcare provider. They may consider:
1. Further Testing: If the L1-L2 nerve roots are suspected to be involved, additional EMG testing of the muscles innervated by those roots may be warranted.
2. Physical Therapy: Continuing with rehabilitation may help alleviate some symptoms, but if there is no improvement, further intervention may be necessary.
3. Surgical Consultation: If conservative measures fail and significant nerve compression is confirmed, surgical options may need to be revisited.
Conclusion
In summary, the location of the muscles tested during an EMG does affect the results, and it is possible for symptoms to arise from multiple levels of the spine. Your current symptoms could be attributed to both the L4-L5 and potentially the L1-L2 nerve roots. A collaborative approach involving your neurologist, orthopedic surgeon, and rehabilitation specialist will be crucial in determining the best course of action for your recovery.
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